On USAF paperwork that means Commander

In the "KISS" format.
If the person is wearing a rank that is known to you as an officer rank, then you are indeed required to salute.
If the rank is unidentifiable, ie.. circles, diamonds, or whatever, then that person has yet to earn the Military Custom and Courtesy of the salute.

CC = Cadet Command

I fully agree with Old-Crusty. The "kiss" concept is truly the best one. Obviously i'll salute any commissioned officer...this does not inclue the diamonds though. Thanks for letting me know what CC stands for.

When in doubt, whip it out. (Get your mind out of the gutter)

i just went to the board and i guess im an e4(P) now, so does that mean that everyone under me call me sgt now? isnt that the same concept? the cadets are studing to lead a plt into combat, right, THEY HAVENT EARNED IT YET! even if it was in an AR i think that i would have trouble doning it. but mine is not to wonder why, mine is just to do and die!

In all honesty I think cadets should salute enlisted members. From what I've seen from ROTC programs, most of these people won't make good soldiers. I think Basic Training should be mandatory for everyone joining the Army. The ROTC camps are just nice little vacations, and don't even try to tell me that they are hard.
Salute the commissioned officers only.
Cadets that earn a salute the most of all cadets are diamonds, as they've served time in the military before and know the lifestyle.

[quote:5ec08fa1ea="NCO_OF_THE_YEAR"]Who in here agrees with saluting cadets. Ok, we'll even narrow it down to what that previous post stated "senior cadets". Just reading that post tells me two things:

1) We are '[i:5ec08fa1ea]encouraged [/i:5ec08fa1ea] to salute....

2) For all the things that cadets CAN"T do... (which is basically everything military related), why should I salute? They hold NO position of authority...NO position to issue me orders...and are in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY somebody that i'll report too......So...why should we salute?

Of course, now that i see it in writing it is a bit different...i'm going to get (try) a copy of this CC Circular 145-11-98. By the way....what does CC stand for??????

Again....just my opinion.[/quote:5ec08fa1ea]

I was at a ceremony when I was stationed at Ft Campbell and a couple of cadets walked by. I just saw something shiny gleam on their headgear so, I saluted. They had the nerve to look at me like I was an idiot and laugh amongst themselves. I will not salute any cadet regardless of his or her seniority. They are not 2LT's yet.

Wolve, how do you know if ROTC advanced camp is a joke? Have you ever been there? I haven't, so I am not going to give my opinion about it. ROTC, in my opinion and experience, is either for the people who want to get their college paid off and then leave after serving, or be in the military and make a career out of it. If the camp is such a piece of cake, then why aren't you there?

billystacy, the only fools were them. They obviously weren't mature enough to handle a salute. I, as a cadet, agree a salute is not required unless you actually have a bar on your cap. (nothing more and nothing less)

Before we get into another pissing match about who kicks more ass between officer and enlisted lets all remember the military need both types of personnel to function. All Cadets and future officers need to remember the NCO they have "working for them" is really there to teach them all those really important things that ROTC doesn't cover (believe me there are many). As officers we are responsible for EVERYTHING, and that SFC or MSG is a wealth of knowledge and experience that will be listened to as they have been in service since most of the current LTs were in "Huggies". That NCO is there to help you make sure little johny squadmember can write mommy and daddy a letter at the end of the day instead of you writing a letter to little johny's folks.

To all you NCOs, please be patient with punk butterbars and remember no kick ass officers would exist if not for mentorship from the NCO Corps.

All the people I was in ROTC with, yes I was in ROTC for a year, said that Advanced Camp was like a nice vacation while getting paid. And these people weren't tough die hard military people. They said it was a piece of cake. The reason I'm not there is because I'm currently taking the enlisted route. I've been to PLDC, Basic Training, AIT, Combat Lifesaver, just to name a few schools. I want to be an NCO, a good leader, before I consider becoming an officer. And I honestly doubt that Advanced Camp was harder than BCT or PLDC.

I don't know what CC means either. I have looked it up in AR 310-50(Authorized Abbreviations, Brevity codes and Acronyms. It can be any of the following:
Combat Command
Common Carrier
Control Center
Chemical Corps

I don't think it is Army wide, don't quote me on that, but this CC circular is probably a local Command policy.

[quote:f23aedd762="glockaholic"]Wolve, how do you know if ROTC advanced camp is a joke? Have you ever been there? I haven't, so I am not going to give my opinion about it. ROTC, in my opinion and experience, is either for the people who want to get their college paid off and then leave after serving, or be in the military and make a career out of it. If the camp is such a piece of cake, then why aren't you there?

billystacy, the only fools were them. They obviously weren't mature enough to handle a salute. I, as a cadet, agree a salute is not required unless you actually have a bar on your cap. (nothing more and nothing less)[/quote:f23aedd762]

True that. Just out of curiosity, what specialty are you thinking of taking when you get commisioned? I am enlisted in the Adjutant General core and I can tell you that it is quite dissapointing due to the fact that we only get to be soldiers if we go to the right unit. For the most part we are paper pushers.

I'm not so sure bout the situation you guys have in the good old US of A, but in Aust the cadets and the ADF have what is called a "working relationship". We don't need to beat around the bush about precisely who we salute - we all know that the people that do the time deserve the respect. If we saw a recruit just joined the ADF not paying respects to an officer in the ADFC, or a cadety not paying respect to his counterpart in the ADF, we'd know that there's something seriosly wrong. Other Ranks in the ADF still outrank cadet officers, but if the CUO (Cadet Under Officer) in question gets a salute they don't kid themselves that they actually deserve it. They haven't got the little bit of paper from the government to say that they're better. But, then again, I'm not saying that a ADF recruit is better that a CUO either.

In regards to the difficulty of the training courses that the cadets do in comparison to the ADF personel, I'd like to see a recruit just out of Basic try to do a National Drill competition, or even the National Fieldcraft! Cadets train for years just in the one speciality to be [i:53489d240d]accepted[/i:53489d240d] into the state team to compete for those competitions. Cadets in Australia are a springboard for a career in the Defence Forces, but at times cadets are dissapointed when they enlist and see the level that is required. There is an adjustment that they make when they realise that their fellow recruits do not have their brilliant background in the ADFC that they do.

[quote:031f3b7b56="SSG Joe Snuffy"]I don't know what CC means either. I have looked it up in AR 310-50(Authorized Abbreviations, Brevity codes and Acronyms. It can be any of the following:
Combat Command
Common Carrier
Control Center
Chemical Corps

I don't think it is Army wide, don't quote me on that, but this CC circular is probably a local Command policy.[/quote:031f3b7b56]


here is a link to it........CC stands for Cadet Command

http://www.rotc.monroe.army.mil

click n the right site......and find the reg

it will have any information you need about cadets