Just an interesting observation I've had:
I've heard just as many if not more cases of recruits lying to their recruiter as I have recruiters lying to the recruits.

In most cases, no one has ever been able to give me substantial evidence that their recruiter had actually lied. Perhaps it's just one of those Army traditions like bad food, poor pay, and subhuman living conditions.

What are your thoughts? Who lies more?

I wouldn't call it lying as much as just stretching out the truth...Leave a bit of information out, a mistake even. I'm sure some recruits/recruiters have lied, but who knows. Unless you were to sound tape every conversation you had with your recruit/recruiter, there is no way you could prove it.

That's just how I see it.

I would agree with Aviation. It would be really had to prove a recruiter lied.

My recruiter didn't lie to me at all and I showed him the same respect. But I've heard horror stories from soldiers who were lied to and just as many soldiers who say they lied to their recruiter.

I wasn't lied to as much as misled. If I would have known the right questions then I probably would have much less hostility towards my recruiter. Still glad I joined though.

I was told that as an MP I would be like a "state trooper" for the Army. I fell for it because I did not do any leg work on my own.

I think that anyone joining the Army should look at joining as the start of a career and not just a 3,4, or 5 year job. They never know if they are going to like it enough to stay in for the long haul.

Like any job, they should check into what the job entails before signing on the dotted line.

If I go in for an interview at a corporation for an "admin job" and am told that I will be working with paperwork all day and don't ask for any more information, then get hired and get stuck in a mail room, that was my fault for not getting more details about the job.

Anyway, Recruiters generally don't lie (I am sure that there are some bad apples). Recruiters are Soldiers that want to do their job to the best of their ability and get back into the regular Army. All those people that are saying that their recruiter lied to them may find themselves sitting behind a desk in some town talking to some young kid sometime in the future. I just hope that they remember how they thought they were treated by their recruiter when some young kid is sitting in front of them listening to how great an opportunity the Army is.

Please remember that lots of recruiters did not ask to be a recruiter. The Army came down and felt that it was in the best needs of the Army for them to be a recruiter, sent them to a short school and then stuck them out in the streets to tell good things about the Army.

In my 2.5 years of recruiting I have had alot of people tell me bold face lies. These range from telling me they have never done any drugs to telling me they have never been in trouble with the police. These are the most common but by far not the only ones. AS I sit here I feel quite confident that I have never lied to any person who has either enlisted or tried to enlist for me. Now one of the biggest things people say their recruiter lied to them abolut is what they will be doing with their MOS. A great example of this is cook. When I talk to high school kids and they say they want to go to culinary arts school and they look at our list of jobs and they naturally pick that. One of the first and most important thigs that I have taught new recruiters is not to sell any one particular job and that every job in the Army is great. Just because one person may hate the hours and amount of work that a cook puts in their are those out their who love being a cook. Right now my office is dealing with a kid who is now not stop whining. Before he enlisted he had the idea that he wanted to become like the guys in the movies and picked airborne infantry. Well he just reported to his first duty station and calls our office every day to complain aout it. Is this the recruiters fault that this kid made this decision and is now seeing that the Army isnt what you see in the movies?