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Question about my waiver

Hello, this is for anyone who can help me with a question I have regarding a waiver. I was previously discharged from the Marine Corps with an RE-3JGA. Narrative was depressed mood. I am currently working with a recruiter to get back into the military and join the Army Reserves. He suggested to me that I get an evaluation for depression so that my waiver would be more likely to be granted. He did not site a specific test or anything that the Army required, just stated that he needs something in writing stating this is not a chronic problem nor is it a current issue. I went ahead and called numerous specialists who deal with depression, all who gave me various answers. Some said they would evaluate me and write me a letter stating their findings, others referred me to different specialists who wanted to charge me $1,000 plus for one evaluation visit. If anyone could help me with what would suffice, I would appreciate it. This is rather expensive, so I want to make sure the eval. I receive is what would help me get into the Army. I have yet to find anything online or in the forums that answer what kind of evaluation it needs to be. Thank you for your help and time.
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Do you have any VA benefits?

If so, then you can go to the VA and try and get what you need from them. Shouldn't cost a thing.
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No I do not. I forgot to mention the discharge came during boot camp. I do not mind paying out of pocket as long as it helps my chance of getting back in. I'm just trying to make sure I pay for the proper eval. that will help me out. Yesterday I had a therapist offer to write a letter after he evaluates me. I'm considering going forward with him so I can move on with the process, but I'm still trying to find a definite answer on the net. Thank you for your reply and for any future help that is offered.
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was your discharge for performance or misconduct (based on hte fight you had?)....

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Dumb question here-

Should you REALLY be in the military?

The military can be very stressful. You see/experience things that no civilian job could put you in. There are stressful civilian jobs too, the difference is having a loaded weapon and people trying to kill you (on a daily basis- cops hopefully get some comfort when they go home.)

I have plenty of friends who have lost very good friends to horrific deaths. Not even a month ago 7 guys from our unit were blown up by enemies who planted a remote control bomb. I didn't know any of them, but one of the guys in our office went to visit one of the survivors.
-This survivor MIGHT keep both legs, and said "I watched so-and-so disintegrate into a big pile of flesh right in front of my eyes."

There's a guy in my office (afghanistan) who has a brother at home (22yrs old) with cancer- can't just fly home because he wants to, and it's stressing him out.

So you need to ask yourself HONESTLY-
SHOULD you be in the military?
-Will you be a risk for yourself?
-Will you be a risk for others? No one downrange has time to be dealing with some guy who is depressed.

Be Proud of what you do- and do it Well! ~me
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I will check my DD214 when I get the chance, but I believe it was misconduct. Do I belong in the military? Of course. Am I a risk? No. Am I depressed? No. Any history of? No. Unfortunately for me now I need a written statement from a specialist stating such, which I don't believe will be a problem (besides the money that it will cost). I've still yet to find a definite answer anywhere. I'm looking to go with the first guy I spoke with, since he offered to evaluate me and write a letter. If anyone happens to find something more than I was able to, please let me know at your convenience. If I find a definite answer, I will post it as well. Thank you for your replies and for any future help that is offered.
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Understand seeing a specialist, therapist, psychiatrist, etc. to get something in writing is not going to be a quick process. They need to evaluate you over a period of time to get and accurate assessment and give you a diagnosis, or lack thereof.

How did you get a "depressed mood" narrative from an incident in boot camp? If you're not depressed why would that be in the narrative? Look at it this way. You enlisted with one branch and were discharged before fullfilling your obligation. The Army Reserve is going to look at this hard to avoid the same happening again. If you want it, don't give up but also take a look at it from the side of the Army.
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Cause he was bull$hitting when he got out and now he wants back in, but the Marines will NOT entertain his waiver, neither should we.
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What was the cause of you being discharged due to depression in basic training? If you were actually diagnosed with clinical depression, what were the triggers? If it was legitimate, how could you handle being deployed? Boot camp is only 1-2 months of hardship.

If you couldn't mentally handle boot camp, you are going to have a difficult time in the uniformed services. BTW, reserves deploy alot more than you might know.
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I apologize I have not updated. I have seen a therapist for a few weeks. He concluded that he will recommend me for another shot at boot camp and stated that I am not depressed. According to him and a psychologist, "depressed mood" and "depression" are 2 different sets of diagnosis. To make it short, it was a situational thing which I need to adapt to. My recruiter told me once I get him the paperwork, he will send it to MEPS to have them look at it. From there, I will have another eval. by a MEPS doctor and an interview with the reserve liaison commander (should things go smoothly). I was informed this may take more than a few months to get all of that done, since it's an uphill fight for me.

-OTNCO and Sergeant Medic, it was not clinical depression. I made the unfortunate decision to go UA, or AWOL. Upon turning myself in, they separated me. It's a terrible decision that I live with everyday, and a decision I wish hadn't made. I will not quit on getting back in, nor on anything else in life like I did that day. That was the lowest point in my life, and it will not happen again, period. Thank you for your concerns and words of advice.

-Corvette1140, I will ignore that comment since it was meaningless and irrelevant to the original post. Believe me, that pathetic decision of mine is on my mind everyday. I made my mistake in life, but it doesn't mean I can't correct it.

Thank you for any future posts and help / concerns anyone offers. I appreciate you taking the time out of you day to do so. I will update soon.
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Update: My paperwork was given to my recruiter and the following day he told me he sent my packet over. Now he says it's a waiting game. I'm praying this works out, but if not I will try again. The wait time is unknown....could be a few weeks, could be a few months. Either way, I plan on checking in once a week to stay updated. I will update when I receive further info. If anyone has any further advice / info, it will be greatly appreciated. Thank you all for taking the time out of your day to respond.

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Waiver4me, I'm supportive of your decision and I know from experience that whether your discharge was merited under those conditions or not, the Marines are always quick to MAKE SURE you aren't getting back in on your DD214, even if a depressed mood was not the case.

Bear in mind, all your recruiter can do is send it up, but due to the nature of how stacked the Army is with the poor economy, I have not had an applicant or heard of an instance in which a psychological was approved.

2-3 years ago, maybe. Right now, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but it's not likely to happen. Keep your recruiter's phone number close, but don't call him so often that he starts to get put off, let it happen, sometimes medical reviews of these sorts can take months.

In fact, our MEPS actually laid off the medical guy that reviewed psych waivers in the last few months. Move your life forward, make plans for something else, but if you get a call in a few months, good for you.

"It is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles." -Niccolo Machiavelli, 1515
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i dont know! depressed mood and awol is not a good look for a soldier at all in any branch of the military! but if being in the service is what your heart desirees i wish you the best of luck!
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Thank you all for your comments. I spoke with my recruiter last week and he still has not heard anything yet. In the meantime, I am currently staying productive with college and teaching in an EMS class. Also, I took the advice to not call my recruiter too often. I call him every few weeks to keep in contact and to show that I am "still here" sort of thing. Again, thank you everyone for your input. I will post again soon.
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