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Ok, I have asked in two other forums and I guess I should have started here, but I am new to this site, so forgive me lol. Anyways, I just want to know if it is possible for someone with PTSD and who recieves disability from VA for two physical injuries to become a drill sergeant?
 
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Per AR 614-200
8–14. Drill sergeant candidate prerequisites
a. Drill sergeant candidates are AA, U. S. Army Reserve-AGR, and Individual Ready Reserve Soldiers who—
(1) Expend Government funds in compliance with AA, U. S. Army Reserve-AGR, and Individual Ready Reserve
DS school/assignment orders.
(2) Have reported to DS school but were already assigned to the DS school installation when selected for the DS
Program.
b. Drill sergeant candidates must meet the following prerequisites:
(1) Be physically fit (maximum profile guide is 111221), meet body composition requirements in AR 600–9, and be
able to pass the APFT (no substitution of events) upon arrival at DS school.
(2) Be 40 years old or less. However, volunteers may be 41 years old or older provided they have the appropriate
medical clearance (see AR 40–501) at the time of request. Medical clearance should state that Soldier is medically
cleared for DS duty.
(3) Have no record of emotional instability as determined by screening of health records and clinical evaluation by a competent mental health officer.
(4) Have no speech impediment.
(5) Be a high school graduate or possess the GED equivalent.
(6) Display good military bearing.
(7) Have demonstrated leadership ability during previous tours of duty and have demonstrated capability to perform
in positions of increasing responsibility as senior NCO in the Army, as reflected on the NCOERs.
(8) Have had no court-martial convictions.
(9) Have no record of disciplinary action, to include letters of reprimand, or time lost under 10 USC 972 during
current enlistment or in last 5 years, whichever is longer.
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(10) May not have received EB or SRB for current service obligation if PMOS is not among those authorized for
DS positions if AA Soldiers.
(11) Have a minimum GT score of 100. This criterion may be waived by the commander of HRC to not less than 90
on a case-by-case basis for SSG and SFC candidates; the minimum GT score of 100 may not be waived for SGT
candidates. Requests for waiver will be for Soldiers who have a successful record of service in leadership positions and
have completed college degree requirements or are continuing to further their education at the collegiate academic
level.
(12) Have qualified with M16A2 or M-4 carbine rifle within last 6 months.
(13) Be SGT through SFC (not applicable to USAR/ARNGUS Soldiers; not applicable to DS school first sergeant
positions). SGT candidates must be a graduate of the Warrior Leader Course (WLC).
(14) Have a minimum of 4 years total active Federal service. SGT candidates must also have a minimum of 1 year
time-in-grade and have 2 years service remaining after the completion of DS duty.
(15) Have a commander’s evaluation by a LTC or higher. Commander (LTC or higher) will personally interview the
Soldier (this may not be delegated) and ensure Soldier meets prerequisites. Commanders will consider the “whole
Soldier” when making their recommendation. Input should include, but is not limited to, demonstrated leadership
ability and potential; physical fitness; character/integrity; the Soldier’s ability to perform in stressful situations; any
incidents of abuse that the chain of command is aware of. All negative evaluations must include a full explanation.
(16) Have a thorough background screening conducted by HRC prior to attendance at Drill Sergeant school.
Background screenings are conducted to determine Soldiers’ suitability to serve in sensitive duty positions. Processes
and criteria for background screenings and security clearances are independent and unique. Background screenings
have no relationship to nor do they impact security clearances. Consequently, a Soldier who possesses a Top Secret
clearance may not be cleared during the background screening process. Soldiers with Type I reports of unfavorable
information disqualifiers will be excluded from DS duty permanently. Soldiers with Type II reports of unfavorable
information disqualifiers will be excluded for consideration for DS duty for 5 years from the date of the incident.
(17) Type I reports of unfavorable information disqualifiers (automatic rejection):
(a) Sexual harassment; assault characterized as moderate or severe; spouse or child abuse characterized as moderate
or severe; rape; or indecent acts with minors (see table C–1, incident severity index, AR 608–18, The Army Family
Advocacy Program, and the case review committee (CRC) determination).
(b) Incest, bestiality, adultery, sexual activity with subordinate Soldiers, or fraternization.
(c) Conduct in violation of the Army’s policy on participation in extremist organizations or activities.
(d) Any court–martial conviction in the Soldier’s career, provided it has not been reversed by a higher court or other
appropriate authority.
(e) Any repeat offenders (or combination) of Type II offenses (see (19)(a) through (19)(e), below) anytime during
Soldier’s career.
(18) Type II reports of unfavorable information disqualifiers (time related—any record of unfavorable information
below committed within five years of DS consideration):
(a) Driving under the influence (DUI).
( b ) A s s a u l t a n d / o r s p o u s e o r c h i l d a b u s e c h a r a c t e r i z e d a s m i l d ( s e e t a b l e C – 1 , A R 6 0 8 – 1 8 , a n d t h e C R C
determination).
(c) Any drug offense.
(d) Larceny/theft.
(e) A traffic violation with six points or more assessed.
(19) Other disqualifiers: Any record of unfavorable information other than the above in the past three years.
(20) The Director of Enlisted Personnel, HRC, will make the final decision on all potentially disqualifying cases that
fall outside of those specifically identified in paragraphs (18) and (19) above. HRC will screen and/or coordinate the
following records for all potential DS candidates based on the criteria listed in (17), above:
(a) Department of the Army Inspector General’s (DAIG) records.
(b) Personnel security and criminal records indexed in the Defense Clearance Investigations Index (CDII) as present
in the Army Investigative Records Repository (AIRR), Army Crime Records Center (ACRC), the Defense Security
Service (DSS), and other Federal agencies and military departments—Central Clearance Facility (CCF).
(c) OMPF restricted files—Soldier Record Data Center (SRDC).
(d) Community and Family Support Center (family advocacy) records.
(21) Soldiers who are disqualified for DS duty based on background screening will be notified via AKO-Email. The
E-mail includes the agency that reported the potentially disqualifying information (see (20) above) and the agency’s
address. The Soldier is informed that he/she may request appeal of the decision by submitting a written appeal to CDR,
H R C ( A H R C – E P O – A ) , E n l i s t e d B a c k g r o u n d S c r e e n i n g S e c t i o n , 2 4 6 1 E i s e n h o w e r A v e n u e , A l e x a n d r i a , V A
22331–0450. The appeal request must be endorsed by the first GO in the chain of command. The Director, EPMD, is
the approval authority for all waivers and may request decision from the CG, HRC, or the DCS, G–1 when warranted.
c. U.S. Army Reserve Soldiers may have the following waived:
AR 614–200 • 27 June 2007 79
(1) Noncommissioned Officer Education System BNCOC requirement. (Soldier must be a Warrior Leader Course
graduate.)
(2) Time–in–service requirement reduced to three years.
(3) Rank to CPL. (However, to attend AA DS school, Soldier must be a prior–service training candidate appointed
as an acting SGT.)
8–15. Qualification criteria
a. Soldiers stationed OCONUS may submit application no earlier than 14 months and no later than 10 months prior
to their DEROS.
(1) A curtailment of OCONUS tour for the sole purpose of entry in the DS Program will not be granted.
(2) Soldiers selected, and in receipt of AI, for the DS Program will not be extended OCONUS.
b. Soldiers based CONUS must complete at least 16 months at their current installation prior to submitting an
application. Soldiers will not PCS until completion of at least 24 months TOS. However, as an exception, Soldiers may
submit an application earlier when they are assigned to an installation where DS positions are authorized.
c. Soldiers must successfully complete DS school prior to performing DS duties.
(1) Soldiers based CONUS who are located at installations without a DS school will attend school in a TDY and
return status.
(2) Soldiers located at installations where a DS school is located will be attached to the school for training.
(3) Soldiers returning from OCONUS will be assigned to the installation where they will be a DS. CONUS-based
Soldiers will attend school in a TDY and return status.


...here's the prerequisites...nobody can really tell you how said soldier got into DSC (probably not 100% truthful), except that soldier...hope this helps a smidgen...


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See I think he is lying about it, but I can't prove it. He has told me that he is at Fort Knox training to be a drill sergeant he has only done a year of active duty and when he came home he said the army released him because of his injuries so he never went to any more meetings, that's been over two years ago and now he says they begged him to come back and they made a deal with him to go to drill sergeant training then he will be reserves not active duty and he will serve his two weekends a month two weeks a year whenever he chooses and he won't be stationed anywhere he will get to stay at home. In December though he said he was on orders to go back to Iraq. I don't know what to believe. Also, I read training is 9 weeks long and he will only be gone a total of 7.
 
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Seems a little odd!!! But then again I was DA selected and did my mental health eval and was told I would pass no matter what when I walked in the door. I have a mild case PTSD so says everyone around me and when I went for my eval I was looked at like I was really nuts, but like I said I still passed regardless of everything they look for.

They ask if you want to harm someone, if your killing people in your sleep they say that's ok, if you want to kill people while your awake, that's ok too, or so I was told. Smiler

Then again the Army does not want to label Soldiers with PTSD anymore, or so it seems in the Army Times. I also have a mental health specialist as a friend Smiler


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What's really going on here?

Is this a boyfriend/girlfriend situation that someone is being lied to or similar?

Seems like there's A LOT more to this story.


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Side note here. If said soldier can not take a PT with doing all three "normal" events then he can not attend the school. From what I have found and been told you need to do PUsh-ups, sit-ups and the RUN... NO walking will be done at the school, now after I am sure is different.

As for doing the DS School at Knox, I just looked up their website and found they do WLC, BNCOC and ANCOC there as well as basic training of course but nothing on their site about the DS School. When I google Drill Sergeant School I come up with three locations, Leonard Wood, Jackson, Benning. But then I look on Army.mil and see that Leonard Wood and Benning not longer doing the school. All the DS training is now done at Jackson. So there is bascially an answer to your many questions.

It does not sound like this soldier .... NCO is telling the truth, With the information I have researched over the months of my selection, you need to be 100% to even get into the school. Too many red flags wave with this NCO!!


The average Shepard can run 35mph, can you??
 
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Can I ask a question? Why is this issue so important you have posted threads about it just about every day?


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I just neeeded to know because we have a child together and none of his stories are making any sense. His work says that he is at training and that he is going to be deployed. He has told the court he is going to be a drill sergeant and will get to stay at home, then he has told his ex he will be stationed at Fort Sill. He was on probation for parental kidnapping with his other child and I think he is hoping that the drill sergeant thing will get him unsupervised visits and then he is going to run with them. I know it probably sounds like I'm just paranoid, but I don't put anything past him (an example is one of the reasons I left him was because he would go to a regular physician and get meds for his PTSD and then lie to the VA office about it so he could get more medication from them) and I don't trust anything he says. It wouldn't be such a big deal if all of his stories were consistant, but since none of us know what is really going on it makes me think he is up to something.
 
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By the way, thanks for all the help you guys!
 
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Can you get a TSC if you are owing of child support? My son is a Combat Vet with an Intelligence Background. His 3 tours in the middle east did a number on his marriage. She was cheating on him while he was over there. When he got back she didn't want him to re-enlist. He left the service 3 years ago. He is now a Vet and would like to join the Air Force Reserve but owes back child support because like most Vets, he hasn't been able to find a job since he returned from the middle east. He wants to re-enlist so he CAN work and pay his child support. What's the prospect that he will be able to get his TSC back?

Thanks for any help anyone can give offer me on this.


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First off, this thread is five years old. More than five actually. The information might not be 100% the same anymore.

Honestly, if he owes that much back child support (how much does he owe, don't lie here, no need to, it's anonymous) probably slim.

It isn't specifically the debt that is an issue. The issue is that he is out of work, and owes a lot of money to someone and eventually the government, making him susceptible to bribery by a foreign intelligence service....payment for US secrets basically.


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