I am so mad with this military system right now. My husband is now a SGT but no one would be able to tell because they won't pin him. His LES still says E4 and we still get E4 pay. They won't promote him because he's in the just got to Fort Gordon to reclass and says his old unit needs to publish the orders..but his old unit says they can't because he has checked out of the unit.. so no one is doing anything everyone can give a crap less. We are not getting the correct BAH.. he is getting BAH that is less than the E4- without dependants. SCREW the army I am sick of this crap already. When we were PCSIng to Italy (our last duty station) I had to stay behind to get all of my paperwork done for passports and stuff 5 months.. and they stopped our freaking BAH.. we weren't getting anthing at all.. no BAH and no cola and he didn't have meal rations card what the hell. When he goes to fix these things.. they say oh well we need this from your old unit..to promote you but you can call them from our DSN because you don't have a whatever and we don't want to let you use it till 5 when he's has to be in class. ahhhhhh. I don't understand why they need his papers from his promotion board when they know he went to it because that is how he became promotable and was able to make points and be on the august promotion list. We had a big problem in Italy too getting things done. In fact we got our order 8 business days before we PCS'd not because they weren't there.. they were ready to be cut but the damn unit never submitted the paper work to get the cut. No the paperwork didn't get turned in until I got pissed and went into the office and yelled at everyone.. saying my husband never turned this in or this in..just to find out they had and it was logged and the S1 had it for weeks. We just got screwed everywhere. I don't know what to do.. How crappy its going to be if he's going to have to Wait until next year in March when he reports to his next duty station to get his promotion that he got in august 2008. Why because no one cares.. we are just freaking paper work.
Has he checked his DA Form 3355 online to make sure his board paperwork was entered? (can find through AKO)
Was he on the by name list that comes out every month for everyone that made cutoff? (also in AKO)
Has he signed a C-10 roster? (his old unit)
Most of the time if someone makes cutoff their LES automatically updates along with BAH. I would have him check his 3355 online to even see if he has one, and if he does, see how many points he really has. (may have less then he thinks and didn't make cutoff). If that fails he needs to call his last unit and get copies of the board results and a memo from the CSM verifying he has went to the board.
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Posts: 430 | Location: Fort Carson | Registered: 18 May 2007
FIRST, YOU SAY SCREW THE ARMY ??? WHAT DID IT DO TO YOU?? YOU SEEM MORE CONCERNED THAN YOUR HUSBAND !! I BET YOUR THE SPOUSE WHO JUST HANGS AROUND THE COMPANY ALL DAY, RIDE TO PT, ATTEND EVERY UNIT FUNCTION, GET IN EVERY SOLDIERS BUISNESS, PROBABLY IN FRG, AND DO ALL THIS AND DONT HAVE A JOB !! (BUT SCREW THE ARMY) (YEAH RIGHT). TELL YOUR E-4 HUSBAND TO GET OFF HIS A** AND USE SOMEBODIES OPEN DOOR POLICY TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY, BUT THAT PROBABLY WON'T WORK BECAUSE YOU JUST WENT TO HIS JOB AND SCREAMED AT EVERYBODY !! A LITTLE ADVICE "DON'T PISS THE PEOPLE OFF THAT GOTTA HELP YOU IN THE LONG RUN" ! GOOD LUCK !!!
First of all, 92F_KING had it right on the money. Second of all, you just had an all-expense-paid stay in Italy. I think you've lost your right to complain.
Originally posted by 92F_KING: FIRST, YOU SAY SCREW THE ARMY ??? WHAT DID IT DO TO YOU?? YOU SEEM MORE CONCERNED THAN YOUR HUSBAND !! I BET YOUR THE SPOUSE WHO JUST HANGS AROUND THE COMPANY ALL DAY, RIDE TO PT, ATTEND EVERY UNIT FUNCTION, GET IN EVERY SOLDIERS BUISNESS, PROBABLY IN FRG, AND DO ALL THIS AND DONT HAVE A JOB !! (BUT SCREW THE ARMY) (YEAH RIGHT). TELL YOUR E-4 HUSBAND TO GET OFF HIS A** AND USE SOMEBODIES OPEN DOOR POLICY TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY, BUT THAT PROBABLY WON'T WORK BECAUSE YOU JUST WENT TO HIS JOB AND SCREAMED AT EVERYBODY !! A LITTLE ADVICE "DON'T PISS THE PEOPLE OFF THAT GOTTA HELP YOU IN THE LONG RUN" ! GOOD LUCK !!!
You know, I kinda resent this. I currently stay home with the kids, am active in the FRG, am at every unit function, and know a lot about my husband's soldiers, not because I'm nosey but because I give a damn about them.
I see her more as the doesn't do a damn thing with the FRG but when she attends anything she makes an ass of her husband because she's so rude to everyone and doesn't leave her husband's shop talk between her and her husband.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on just about every other bit, but I hate when folks assume that people like her are the norm when it comes to highly involved spouses.
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Posts: 255 | Location: Fort Campbell, KY | Registered: 15 February 2008
Originally posted by Go Ordnance: Most of the time if someone makes cutoff their LES automatically updates along with BAH. I would have him check his 3355 online to even see if he has one, and if he does, see how many points he really has. (may have less then he thinks and didn't make cutoff). If that fails he needs to call his last unit and get copies of the board results and a memo from the CSM verifying he has went to the board.
Here's my take of what probably happened. The current unit doesn't have his promotion packet (basically what Go Ordnance said to check on), and as a result, he made cutoff and the by-name list, but can't pin without proof he attended the board.
He needs to talk to his old unit and get a copy of the 3355 (signed by CO) and/or a memo saying he went to the board signed by CO/1SG. Once the current unit has this, they can cut his orders, and he can get pinned. He'll get back payed as well.
I literally just went through the exact same thing. In my case, it took my current unit calling my old unit to get the wheels rolling.
okay...ma'am...who's in the Army? You or your husband? How about you step away from the computer, and have your husband give us a holler, okay. Don't want you to have an anerisum, your husband only gets $10,000 from Uncle Sam if you kill over, it's so not worth it. I applaude you in your stand up attitude for you man in uniform, but know this; you can't do anything about the situation, save those precious breaths for you dying day. Only your husband can get the problem fixed, that's all there is to it. The Army isn't always good to it's Soldiers, there are a lot of flawed systems, but the Army will always piss off somebody's wife, just be glad your hubby's missing a few hundred bucks from his LES and not missing his legs, little food for thought.
92F King I could not agree with you more. I would be pretty pissed if If my wife was like that. Then again I handle business like a man so she wouldn't have to get involved. Any ways it is a pretty messed up situation.
It's not harsh, it's the truth. As a spouse it's not her place to go to his work and throw a fit. You wouldn't do it in the civilian sector so why the Army? It is her husband's responsibility to take care of his career and if he doesn't take care of it then maybe he shouldn't get promoted, that's my own opinion anyway.
After about a day in the Army most people realize they need copies of their own of everything they get anyway. Yeah, it's the "S" shops' jobs to take care of it but you have to be accountable for your own career at some point. If you leave it up to everyone else to square you away it will never get done because they don't care about it as much as you probably do.
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Posts: 255 | Location: Fort Campbell, KY | Registered: 15 February 2008
I think you guys are missing the point. If its that bad that she actually had to go down there, the unit is crap and a complaint should be filed.
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Originally posted by whiskeywife: It's not harsh, it's the truth. As a spouse it's not her place to go to his work and throw a fit. You wouldn't do it in the civilian sector so why the Army? It is her husband's responsibility to take care of his career and if he doesn't take care of it then maybe he shouldn't get promoted, that's my own opinion anyway.
After about a day in the Army most people realize they need copies of their own of everything they get anyway. Yeah, it's the "S" shops' jobs to take care of it but you have to be accountable for your own career at some point. If you leave it up to everyone else to square you away it will never get done because they don't care about it as much as you probably do.
Posts: 35 | Location: Fort Gordon, GA | Registered: 07 August 2008
Well like someone else said if he made cutoff it would just pop up on ur les and erb so maybe he thought he made it but didnt? Im pretty sure the difference between spc bah and sgt bah isnt that much maybe a 100 bucks? and as a spouse its not ur lane to come to his job and yell ur not in the army and ur on going to make things worst for him and his old unit does cut him orders to get promoted it comes down from HRC to his higher headquarters all his unit does is give them to him from higher. So sorry spouse hes not ur child so you shouldnt treat him like one because he will not get respect that way
First off, learn to spell...and grammar... Second, back when I became an NCO I was proud of it, it wasn’t about money, it was about pride. So if I made cutoff and didn’t get promoted, I would be pissed. Third, the difference between E-5 with Bah and E-4 without is $238.
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Originally posted by ShootaShane: Well like someone else said if he made cutoff it would just pop up on ur les and erb so maybe he thought he made it but didnt? Im pretty sure the difference between spc bah and sgt bah isnt that much maybe a 100 bucks? and as a spouse its not ur lane to come to his job and yell ur not in the army and ur on going to make things worst for him and his old unit does cut him orders to get promoted it comes down from HRC to his higher headquarters all his unit does is give them to him from higher. So sorry spouse hes not ur child so you shouldnt treat him like one because he will not get respect that way
Posts: 35 | Location: Fort Gordon, GA | Registered: 07 August 2008
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