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Ok, so I have just recently joined the Army National Guard. I am curious to know if there are any secrets to moving up quickly in rank with the Guard. I know a lot of Guard members who have been in for 7+ years and are only sitting at E5. This makes me think that it is hard to move up. I have yet to go to basic and I am starting out at the very bottom of the poll as an E-nothing,lol. Ive been around the full time Army for years and I know it is fairly easy to move up there. I have a few friends at the age of 22 and 23 who have already made E5 with only 2-3 years behind them. Is that possible with the Guard as well?
 
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The big issue is that you have to have an appropriate position for your grade. This often means waiting until someone above you retires.

My best advice is be prepared to transfer units, and eat the cost if travel is further. Be willing to switch MOSs, even though this may require you to pay back some incentives (bonus, etc). If you have a bonus, keep it in savings and collect interest.

Otherwise, switch over to the Reserves where they don't have that problem (I'm not biased... really.)


This is a ten level task
 
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Daddy Warcrimes,
Originally, I was going for the reserves...I couldn't find the damn office.lol Plus the only reason I was going to do either was for the college. I found out the reserves don't pay full tuition. The MOS I have is 15p (Aviation Operations Specialist). I think I already want to change MOS's. And as far as the bonus part goes, the Guard gives a minimum $20k for any MOS right now...and you only get half now and the other three years from now (which I think is ridiculous). I wont get the bonus anyway until after basic. Please read my other post tittled "Should I Change?" Maybe you can help with that one too.lol Thanks
 
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My question is are promotions from E-1 Private (PVT) through E-4 Specialist/Coropral (SPC/CPL) automatic. What exactly do I have to do to get these promotions? How hard is it to get E-5 (SGT)? Is PLDC-Sergeants Major Course hard? If so please give me some information about them. Oh, and is their a possible way I can move up to E-2 Private (PV2) within 2 months of the Strips for Skills program? Is their such thing as the Strips for Skills program? And how do I move up quick to E-3 Private First Class (PFC) before I go through BCT without putting two people in?
 
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Wow.

I'm kinda biased. I'm that dude that came in as an E1, and clawed my way to the top, so I think EVERYONE should come in as an PVT. It's good for the soul to have to start from Square 1...

But to unbiasly answer you questions... Yes, promotions from PVT-SPC are "automatic"... per say. If you're an outstanding soldier, or if you at least have good NCOs, then you can get promoted fast. If not, then you'll have to wait for it to come to you.

Private (E-2) - Six months time-in-grade (TIG) as a private (E-1).

Private First Class (E-3) - Four months TIG as a Private (E-2) and 12 months time-in-service (TIS).

Specialist/Corporal (E-4) - 6 months TIG with 24 months TIS.

You can get waivers for each rank that can get you promoted a couple of months quicker. That's where being highspeed comes into play. Wink

As for SGT, thats 8 months TIG as a SPC/CPL and 36 months TIS.

Is it easy? Nothing's easy. But it wasn't hard, if you know what I mean.

PLDC is now called Warrior Leaders Course (WLC). And it's so easy it's ridiculous. That doesn't mean you should take it lightly though.

Don't worry about the SGM's Academy. I'm sure it's terribly difficult. Cool

As for "Stripes for Skills"? Isn't that a Reserve program? I don't know anything about that. Sorry.


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Talk to your recruiter. He should have a checklist with everything from a PT test to facing movements on it. Perform the tasks on the checklist and it bumps you up a rank to E-2 before you go to basic training. At least it did so 3+ years ago.
 
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Remember.... It's not always about the amount of rank you have on you're collar. Rank is a honor and privilege and isn't something that should be handed out like candy. My advise is that if you don't worry so much about the rank and worry more about your work ethic and soldiering skills, the rank will follow.
 
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good quote i earned mine through 3 combat tours
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Originally posted by 0311/11B:
Remember.... It's not always about the amount of rank you have on you're collar. Rank is a honor and privilege and isn't something that should be handed out like candy. My advise is that if you don't worry so much about the rank and worry more about your work ethic and soldiering skills, the rank will follow.


wars come and go but soldiers stay eternal...... 2Pac
 
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