I am renegotiating my contract this week, and my recruiter suggested i look into MI as my options. Im not sure if i can learn a new language, in a year especially. The jobs sound exciting but im worried about that part alone. can anyone give me some advice on how difficult that is, and what happens if i happen to fail that part of the AIT? thanks
trying to learn a language in a year is tough, but not impossible. Take the DLAB, that gives you a good idea of your capabilities. Then, if you're still wary, a good MI MOS that doesn't require a language but you can get the option for it is 97B and I hear 97E is becoming like that.
97B is in charge of maintaining OpSec, Operational Security. some of the stuff they deal with has to do with things that probably shouldn't be discussed over a public forum. Really the only description I'd be comfortable with giving is that they make sure that as little useful information gets out in to the open.
[quote:fec2370df2="palmtreecowboy"]What does a 97B actually do besides the job description i mean.. day to day work, and would somthing like that cross over to CIA, FBI, ect?[/quote:fec2370df2]
I saw your post in the Signal section. Read my advice, there.
You wanted 74B, so I assume you like computers. If you want to do MI and you like computers, look into the MOS 33W. It's a really high-speed MOS that's a mixture of MI and Automation.
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If you are interested in MI, you should look at these options. All will be fulfilling and will provide you with a valuable skill and high clearance once you depart the military for civil service or the private sector:
33W: Military Intelligence Systems Maintainer/Integrator The Military Intelligence (MI) Systems Maintainer/Integrator is primarily responsible for maintaining and repairing Command/Control subsystems, receiver subsystems and related equipment that is used by Military intelligence teams.
***This next one is a bit of an oddball in where it fits. Some consider PSYOPS an intelligence discipline but it is controlled by the SPECOPS community. If a slot opens, take it because it woun't be there long.
37F - Psychological Operations Specialist The Psychological Operations Specialist is involved in military intelligence operations. They are primarily responsible for supervising, coordinating and participating in the analysis, coordination of psychological operations and psychological warfare.
[b:65276e9e8c]96B: Intelligence Analyst (All-Source)[/b:65276e9e8c] The Intelligence Analyst is primarily responsible for supervising, coordinating and participating in the analysis, processing and distribution of strategic and tactical intelligence.
96D: Imagery Analyst (Single Source) The Imagery Analyst is primarily responsible for supervising and analyzing aerial and ground permanent record imagery developed by photographic and electronic means.
96H Common Ground Station Operator (Single Source) The Common Ground Station Operator is primarily responsible for supervising or participating in detecting, locating and tracking ground targets, ships, missiles and aircraft.
96R Ground Surveillance Systems Operator The Ground Surveillance Systems Operator is primarily responsible for supervising or operating ground surveillance systems that are engaged in intelligence and information gathering.
96U: Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Operator (Single Source) The Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Operator is primarily responsible for supervising or operating the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV). Mission planning, mission sensor, payload operations, launching, remotely piloting and recovering the aerial vehicle are all part of this position.
97B Counterintelligence Agent (Single Source) The Counterintelligence Agent is primarily responsible for supervising and conducting counterintelligence surveys and investigations of individuals, organizations, installations and activities in order to detect, assess and counter threats to national security.
97E Human Intelligence Collector (Single Source) The Human Intelligence Collector is primarily responsible for supervising and conducting information collection operations. They are integral to providing Army personnel with information about enemy forces and potential battle areas.
(Requires Language) 97L Translator/Interpreter (Single Source) The Translator/Interpreter is primarily responsible for converting written or spoken foreign languages into English and other languages, and they usually specialize in a particular foreign language.
98C Signals Intelligence Analyst (Single Source) An Signals Intelligence Analyst listen to and intercept foreign radio transmissions and relay that information by producing combat, strategic and tactical intelligence reports.
(Requires Language) 98G Cryptologic Linguist The Cryptologic Linguist is primarily responsible for performing and supervising the detection, acquisition, location and identification of foreign communications using signals equipment.
(Requires Language) 98H Communications Locator/Interceptor The Communications Locator/Interceptor is responsible for performing and supervising the detection, acquisition, location and identification of foreign communications using International Morse Code (IMC) and radio-printer (non-Morse), as well as signals intelligence/electronic warfare (SIGINT/EW) collection and location equipment.
(Requires Language) 98J Electronic Intelligence Interceptor/Analyst The Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) Interceptor/Analyst is primarily responsible for performing and supervising the detection, acquisition, location and identification of foreign ELINT.
(Requires Language) 98K Signal Collection/Identification Analyst The Signal Collection/Identification Analyst is primarily responsible for performing and supervising the collection, identification, exploitation and analysis of foreign radio-teletype, facsimile and data communications.
I hope this helps you with your decision. If the opportunity presents itself, [b:65276e9e8c]choose an MI occupation[/b:65276e9e8c]...you work with great people and the work is rewarding. Believe me...I'm part of it.
thanks everyone for the advice.. i did want computers and 74b but its frozen right now, no slots. so my recruiter said my scores were highenogh for mi, wich i never eventhought about, but damn it sounds interesting.. my question is this i heard 97E did require a language, is this correct? Not that i wouldnt love to learn an new language, just i question my ability to learn it in a short period of time. Also 33W does sound interesting ill look into it.. now 37F, it was on my list of ones to look into.. is 37F like what is sounds like, getting inside people heads, kinda like physcological warefare? i think somewhere in MI is where im going to go. thakns again everyone for the help
currently 97E does require a language, but it's gonna change pretty soon. I'm not sure when exactly it's gonna change, however. Just like alot of things in the Army... "It's in the works"
37F is not messing with peoples heads and making them do weird things. It is using things like pamphlets, radios, and tv to convince people they really don't want to fight the mighty US Army. 37Fs in the days leading up to the Gulf War II really kicked a**. AFN (Armed Forces Network) had an awesome show on what these guys do all the time. Hope this clarifies the job a little for you.
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MI is small so you have to be flexible and just because your trained in a certain job it really does not mean anything. I went to AIT to be a 96D 3 years ago. At my first duty assignment I was transfromed into a 98J/98C then I changed duty stations and I was operating a trojan spirit satellite. Now I'm in Iraq and for the last 7 months I have been doing 97B/97E work. So my advice is if you go MI be flexible.
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Im currently an ROTC CDT, who is SMP'ed in the national guard as well. Im looking to go active MI when i graduate, and hoping to work for washington when i get out. Its pretty much what my life revolves around currently. Any tips or hints? Things to make sure i do or dont do to get in?
I am a 33W, I would highly recommend this MOS to anyone. You network computers and different systems. You would do all the maintanence for [b:b12af2b12f]all[/b:b12af2b12f] the MI systems because 33 is the only authorized maintainer for all MI systems (i.e. the only people allowed to open any of the hardware up, or play with the propietary software). They teach you to troubleshoot from a basic level (board componants, fuzzy logic, binary) to a very advanced level (system software, lots of Unix, lots of computer based hardware, data signals, video signals, etc....). We work on alot of different systems, including UAV (Shadow and Hunter), Trojan (Spirit and Lite), Common Ground Station, Gaurdrail Sensor, Prophet, many others... 33W is a great MOS, I feel that it is one of the most technically minded MOS's (with the training to go behind it) in the Army/Military. The school prepares you for what it can, but at the same time, we work on [b:b12af2b12f]alot[/b:b12af2b12f] more then what they teach, so if you decide to go 33, be very flexible and ready for anything that they could throw you.
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palmtree, to answer your question: take the dlab, nothing to lose. If you do well you can go to DLI and pick up a language, not to mention enjoy monterey/SF. They do say that learning a language at dli is like drinking from a firehose, but just like not giving up physically gets you through pt not giving up mentally will get you through dli. and at the worst if you get rocked out (can't keep up w/2 or 3 classes you've been rolled back into) then you become a 98c, which isn't a bad job at all, esp as far as promotion is concerned. give it a try, we can always use more. p.s. it's a nice way into S.F. if you're interested in it, I've seen quite a few guys get tired of the job and go to selection, easy as pie.
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