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Hello all, I'm a first time poster, but a long time reader of the site.

I was wondering if the any other MP's here have, or have had, jurisdiction problems with other agencies (i.e. Polizei) when conducting law enforcement duties. For some reason when I first got to Germany the Polizei helped us and we helped them. But for some reason anymore when we request for their assistance it takes like 20 mintues. And mind you (if you haven't noticed my station) Garmisch is NOT that big. Let me give you an example.
I am conducting a patrol of our kaserne. I see a vehicle pass buy with a LN (local national) drinking a beer and operating a vehicle. I stop him and request for Polizei (be in mind we have 1 Desk Sergeant and 1 Patrol on duty for 12 hours so no partner assistance). Well of course the the gentleman is getting out of hand when here's Polizei is getting called. 20 minutes later Polizei show and give me a spill about how its not there problem.
Sorry for the long post but I was just wondering if anyone has had similar problems.
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Garmisch Germany | Registered: 10 December 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post

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only way i can come close to awnsering the question is this

when i was in germany back in 91 one could still drive and have a beer you just could not be drunk. id bet money its something not enforced as often as it should.

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Posts: 408 | Location: Texas | Registered: 06 October 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post

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Yeah it depends on the Polizei station I guess. Here they are kinda anal (only when it makes hem look good), but München seems like they catch everyone reguardless. They keep us busy during Oktoberfest Red Face
 
Posts: 26 | Location: Garmisch Germany | Registered: 10 December 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post

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I'm Intel, not MP, but this thread caught my eye with the term "other agencies." In the Abu Ghraib report, there were many mentions of "Other Government Agencies." Basically, that means clandestine groups that were never officially there (CIA, etc)... some of them were non-military contractors, native Arabic speakers called in to conduct interrogations. According to some of the accused MPs (Charles Grainer, Lindy England, etc), some of these "OGA" personnel ordered the abuse - oops, I mean the "setting of conditions" - of Abu Ghraib interrogation subjects.

I think it's unavoidable that there will be some friction when separate branches/agencies must work together. Heck, in my experience, there's friction between Regular Army and Reserve components... good luck to US Army and Polizei working together! The language and cultural SOP/traditions would probably be the biggest obstacles.

Sorry if this is off-topic for this thread; just thought I'd throw in my $0.02.
 
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