I am joining the army and trying to decide which MOS to join under, 35m or 11b. i was leaning toward 35m because i like the idea of learning about new cultures and travel the world. but i have been hearing people say online that after 2014, this will not be the case. is this true? and can anyone give me some information on what my day to day life as a 35m would be like?
thanks for your reply, but i was more wondering what life in the army as a 35m will be like. i have read that after afghanistan is over 35m will basically be doing nothing. and i worked a office job for 10 years, i dont wanta join the army to work another office job. i would like to be in the field working with the locals, travel the word etc etc. although i have read this has been the case with 35m for the last 12 years i hear once the war is over, it will be basically sitting around state side for 35ms. if thats the case i would like to go 11b. any thoughts on this?
i do had a friend who did 35m back in the 80s, she said she was travelling the world back then with that MOS, working with the state dept, and went to many different countries. which excites me, i am also very fond of middle eastern culture and worked at a international call center for 8 years, i get along very well with muslims and ppl from the middle east.
but if it looks like after the war this job will basically be office work as i say id rather go 11b, and try for special forces in the future.
what type of things should i expect to do as a 35m? from my research, it seems like i would basically try and befriend the natives, to give information the army could use.
Originally posted by flint93: i have read that after afghanistan is over 35m will basically be doing nothing.
Depending on where they are stationed and what unit they are in, a 35M would normally be doing the same thing as every other MOS in a "peace time" Army including 11Bs, training in their specialty for the next possible conflict.
Also, you can can travel the world and apply for Special Forces in any MOS regardless if we are at war or not.
11B would be better for you if you come in as a young guy. I don't know how old you are, but youth really helps. It will challenge your body in many ways. If you are an older applicant just go 35M. Be careful who you take info from on this job. Some people sell 35M as a super hero job. There are some that sit in an S-2 shop all day, and there are the 20% or so that do all the work, just like any MOS really.
Why not just go 18X contract from go? If you wash out you will be an 11B Airborne Soldier anyways.
Its actually how the Military gets a lot of Airborne troops that way....from disillusioned guys that came in wanting to be SF or came in with an Option 40 and washed out and sent to the 82nd.
thanks for the info i am 30 , so x18 doesnt apply to me. tho i dont think i would be in good enough shape to go straight to x18. but that has always been something i have wanted to do. not because what i see on tv, but i have read many books on SF, i like that you learn the native langauge and help them, not only to defend themselves but also building bridges, giving simple medical care. i really like that idea. not that i am against shooting the bad guys. but that would be my long term goal and to me 35m seems like a good place to start, and even beyond that, in the same realm of at least partly what SF does.
thanks for all the responses
but what all tasks do 35m do, i hear its not really interrogators, thats just one of many tasks. from what i understand, its more like befriending the locals (hearts and minds), so that the army can obtain pertinent information to the armys objectives in that area of operations?
flint93, What do you want to do in the Army? What do you want to do after the Army?
If you are absolutely loathe to doing "office work", I would avoid 35M.
Being a HUMINT Collector involves a tremendous amount of report writing and time spent behind a computer. For every hour you spend doing high speed stuff, whether its in the booth or outside the wire, you can count on at least 2-3 hours of writing reports about the stuff you did in agonizing detail.
A Core competency of almost every Intelligence MOS is analysis, which means that at some point you will probably be expected to work in an office environment. Also, as you move up in rank, you are less likely to be the guy doing the high speed stuff and more likely to be the guy managing others as they do high speed stuff. You will be expected to do your Staff time as well.
I am not trying to bash on 35M here, I think it's a great MOS with a lot of awesome opportunities for training and assignments. But don't go into this MOS thinking you are going to be doing all kinds of running and gunning, and singing Kumbaya with Mohammed DirkaDirka. 35M is about getting people to tell you information. Befriending the locals is not the point, and probably shouldn't be happening anyways. And once you get the information, you will spend a lot of quality time with your computer reporting that information up to the people who need it.
Have you looked into MOS 38B Civil Affairs Specialist or 37F Psychological Operations Specialist?
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i have looked into 37f, but from what i saw, idk i like the idea of learning the locals customs and language. as i say thats what made me intrested in SF when i was younger.
i dont mind office work per say but i dont want a strictly office job. i did that for 11 years, and made much better money than i would doing it for the army. so i do want something where i go outside the wire, and all the other 35 series jobs looks as if that was not the case.
i am thinking this maybe the MOS for me, i did my asvab and got a 68, which the recruiter said was good. idk how true that is, i believe less and less of what comes out of a recruiters mouth with each visit i take. hence why i came to this sight for info.
if anyone else sees this and could tell me what try of training i could expect to do as well as work, that would be great. i have heard its alot of interrogations, but that is not all of what a 35m does. in an office environment i worked in a call center for dish network, i did advance tech for about 4 years then inbound sales for about 7 years. this was in a international call center, so much so there was a special prayer room for the muslim employees, which i got along great with. though i am not a muslim i have always been fascinated with middle eastern culture. another reason i think 35m maybe for me.
i am kinda thinking now either go 35x or 11b with that 40 contract to go to rasp. i hear either way ill go to airborne school.
i thought both airborne and langauge training was a must for 35m, but i am finding that is not the case.
thanks sgt.smitty for the info on requesting airborne training will more than likely get me attached to SF.
i looked up the attache looks like that will give me embassy duty. i thought that was what the marines were for.
thanks again guys for all your help, i am not the type of guy that makes multi-year life changing desicions on the fly. and this has really helped.
if i was attached to SF what would my duties be, i assume interrogator. but i am reading now that 35m normally doesnt get language training, which really confuses me. because it says on the army page a big part of there job is translating papers found in english as well as interviews in english. honestly the more i look into this MOS the more confused i get into what my tasks will really be.
Some 35M get language training but the Army has 35P for the bulk of the translating that needs to be done. As JC351LP stated, 35M is HUMINT Collector. I believe some of the confusion you might be running into is the fact that there used to be an MOS that was titled, "interrogator". 35M actually spawned from this MOS and 35Ms are trained to interrogate but that is not their primary duty now days. It's hard to go into details due to the sensitive nature of their duties but I think that JC351LP explained it pretty well. I'm a 35L that works with 35Ms and I usually see them in front of a computer typing out reports. We do the same thing though but we also pitch a lot of TARP briefings.