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I really hate replying to this again, because I understand the point of the question, and I know it's supposed to be fun, but I just have to reply again. Last time on this topic I swear. If you really care about how I got the answer of INCLINE LEFT (RIGHT), and the fact that it will not take two steps to execute, read on. If not, just ignore me. Big Grin

Here is a cut and paste from the 3-21.5 dated July 2003. paragraph c has the info on INCLINE, I included the rest of it to show the format of how commands are written out in the 3-21.5, preparatory commands are in [i:4bfd904b17]italics[/i:4bfd904b17], and the command of execution is in [b:4bfd904b17]bold[/b:4bfd904b17].

"6-7. CHANGING THE DIRECTION OF A COLUMN
To change the direction of a column, use the following procedures:
a. From the Halt, the command to start the squad in motion and simultaneously
change the direction of march 90 or 45 degrees is [i:4bfd904b17]Column Right (Left)[/i:4bfd904b17], [b:4bfd904b17]MARCH[/b:4bfd904b17] or
[i:4bfd904b17]Column Half Right (Left)[/i:4bfd904b17], [b:4bfd904b17]MARCH[/b:4bfd904b17]. On the command of execution [b:4bfd904b17]MARCH[/b:4bfd904b17], the lead
man faces to the right (left) as in marching by pivoting to the right (left) on the ball of the
right foot and steps off in the indicated direction taking a 30-inch step with the left foot
and continues to march. The number two man adjusts his step by lengthening or
shortening as necessary to reach the approximate pivot point of the lead man. When he
reaches the approximate pivot point of the lead man, he pivots to the right (left) on the
ball of the lead foot taking a 30-inch step with the trail foot in the new direction. All
other members step off with the left foot and continue to march forward taking 30-inch
steps and execute in the same manner as the number two man in approximately the same
place until the entire squad has executed the column movement.
b. To change the direction of march 90 or 45 degrees when marching, the
preparatory command [i:4bfd904b17]Column Right (Left)[/i:4bfd904b17] or [i:4bfd904b17]Column Half Right (Half Left)[/i:4bfd904b17] is given
as the foot (in the desired direction) strikes the marching surface. The command of
execution [b:4bfd904b17]MARCH[/b:4bfd904b17] is given the next time the foot in the desired direction strikes the
marching surface. On the command of execution [b:4bfd904b17]MARCH[/b:4bfd904b17], the lead man takes one
additional step, pivots in the commanded direction as the pivot foot strikes the marching
surface, and continues to march in the new direction. Other members continue to march
forward and execute the pivot as prescribed from the Halt.
c. To avoid an obstacle in the line of march, the squad leader directs, [b:4bfd904b17]INCLINE
LEFT(RIGHT)[/b:4bfd904b17]. The lead man inclines left(right) around the obstacle and resumes the
original direction. All other members follow the lead man."

The only other mention of this command is in chapter 7 section 11 and is:

"e The platoon inclines in the same manner as the squad. The squad nearest the
direction of the turn serves as the base. To avoid an obstacle in the path of the march, the
platoon leader directs [b:4bfd904b17]INCLINE AROUND LEFT (RIGHT)[/b:4bfd904b17]."

Again, these are copied directly from the 3-21.5. As you can see, INCLINE LEFT(RIGHT) will not take two steps because it does not have a preparatory command! If you say it when the left foot is hitting the ground, the next right foot will already be turning. Even if you say gas gas gas on the left foot, you are still going to step one more time with your right foot just out of momentum. Either way, you are taking one step.

Now, for another point. Have you seen how some soldiers put on their masks? From what I've seen I wouldn't be surprised if a private or two falls off the cliff anyway stumbling around with the hood over their eyes trying to yank the elastic bands! :P

-SGT Horstman
 
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here's a [b:d489c7c11d]new question[/b:d489c7c11d]: According to The Office of the Chief of Military History, what is the oldest division in the armed forces of the united states?

Hint: March 12, 1879

-SGT Horstman
 
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thats easy

28th Infantry 12-20 March 1879
 
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Well _I_ didn't think it was that easy. Good job. Who's next?

-SGT Horstman
 
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About that question with the cliff...(I know you guys were trying to get to new questions, but..opps..) anyways... I was always told it was "Freeze"..example..if you notice you are in a mine field or something...it's freeze, right?...so you don't even put your foot back down...anyways..thats what i was told.
 
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SGT Horstman,..........although you did your research,..........whether talking about a platoon or a squad,........the "incline", command would not be appropriate in the given scenario because,....as quoted directly from the regulation, "c. To avoid an obstacle in the line of march, the squad leader directs, INCLINE LEFT(RIGHT). The lead man inclines left(right) around the obstacle and resumes the original direction. All other members follow the lead man."

First,....there is no obstacle directly in the path of the line of march. Second,....once around the alleged obstacle,....the squad and all of it's members are to resume their original direction of march. Which would still send soldiers over the cliff. Nice try but still no cigar. Bottom line is,...anyone can argue the answer,...but only the person who asked the question can say what the answer is that he/she was looking for. And the answer in this case was,..."GAS!"

[b:6e8f0f74eb]Next Question:[/b:6e8f0f74eb]
What is the correct order of placement of the colors from each of the armed services in relation to the American Flag,..when posted at an official ceremony or function?[/b]
 
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[b:12dbe1c542]Army Regulation 840–10[/b:12dbe1c542]
[b:12dbe1c542]2–5. Order of precedence of flags[/b:12dbe1c542]
[b:12dbe1c542]The following is the order of precedence of flags:[/b:12dbe1c542]
a. The flag of the United States.
b. Foreign national flags. (Normally, these are displayed in alphabetical
order using the English alphabet.)
c. Flag of the President of the United States of America.
d. State and territorial flags. Normally, state flags are displayed
in order of admittance of the State to the Union. However, they may
also be displayed in alphabetical order using the English alphabet.
Territorial flags are displayed after the State flags either in the order
they were recognized by the united States or alphabetically.
e. Military organizational flags of the Services in order of
precedence
(1) Cadets, United States Military Academy
(2) Midshipmen, United States Naval Academy
(3) Cadets, United States Air Force Academy
(4) Cadets, United States Coast Guard Academy
(5) Midshipmen, United States Merchant Marine Academy
(6) United States Army
(7) United States Marine Corps
(8) United States Navy
(9) United States Air Force
(10) United States Coast Guard
(11) Army National Guard of the United States
(12) Army Reserve
(13) Marine Corps Reserve
(14) Naval Reserve
(15) Air National Guard of the United States
(16) Air Force Reserve
(17) Coast Guard Reserve
(18) Other training organizations of the Army, Marine Corps,
Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard, in that order, respectively.
f. Military organizational flags within a Service by echelon. The
flag for the regimental corps will have precedence immediately
before the regimental proponent’s command flag. The regimental
corps flag will never have precedence above a MACOM flag.
g. Individual flags in order of rank. For the purpose of order of
precedence, the term “individual flags” includes the Department of
the Army Senior Executive Service flag.
 
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You guys are such dorks!
 
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Someone has 31 posts in 2 days... whos the dork? J/K Lol
 
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if it was me i wouldent need a command to sotp if im about to walk of the cliff id stop and let every one know that there is a cliff im gonna move out the way and let the dummies walk over
 
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Now I know I am opening myself up for ugliness, but here goes. I was recently asked "Who is the CinC of the United States Marines Corps?"

The answer looked for was, President Bush. I have major heartburn with that piece of sophistry.

I looked at the question from several angles.
1. I made an assumption (ouch!) that the writer was not familiar with Marine lingo and meant CMC (Commandant Marine Corps).
2. I have always seen the President listed as the Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces, never an individual branch.
3. I have seen titles of General officers such as Commander-in-Chief, Marine Forces Atlantic, so I went with GEN Hagee the current Commandant.

Is anyone sympathetic to my issue? Or should I just suck it up and drive on?

I have to in any case as the writer is my State CSM!
 
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I got a question at the post NCOQ board that I dont know the answer to. Here goes... What is the Honor Banner?

Stumped me.
 
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Isn't it just like a unit flag or colors that you compete for?
 
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GAS!!!!!! Thats the right answer.
 
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[color=blue:eccaa75408][/color:eccaa75408]Here's another question for everyone:

What is the "diamond" in the First Sergeant rank properly called and what does it stand for?

Good Luck!
 
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