I've been on three Soldier boards, one Soldier of the Month, one Soldier of the Quarter and one Brigade Soldier of the Quarter as a recorder. Here are some of the observations that I made on which people failed: 1. There's the basic one - Lack of subjects knowledge. Every battalion S-1 should send out an MOI with the board members and the subjects which will be covered on the board. Mostly all questions I have heard can be found in the studyguide. As a matter of fact, I gave a copy of the studyguide to my 1SG and he uses it for the boards now. 2. The biggest thing that people out here in the field fail to do is catch up on current events. Most board members will use the front page of CNN.com, so try to read that the day you go to the board. My battalion will give priority for the internet to soldiers who are going to the board. 3. Facing movements - be calm and listen to the commands, don't make a left face when he tells you to make a right face. Watch that your steps are the right distance, don't overstep. 4. Reporting - Salute first then speak, a lot of people speak when they are executing the salute, first put up the salute then speak. 5. Movement - Sit at the position of attention and try not to twitch too much and make sure you look the board member addressing you straight in the eyes and make sure you get their rank correct. 6. Speech - The biggest thing that I noticed of all the soldiers is that they speak too softly because they are either intimidated by the board members or they are not sure of themselves in their response. If you speak loud and firm, the board will definitely remember you and give you high marks. Don't use too many "uhms, ehhhs.." Be sure and be confident. Don't mix the ranks up..like First Sergeant Major... 7. Division songs or the Army song - Know them and sing them with pride and distinction. 8. The NCO Creed - The board president made one soldier do it at the start rather than the finish and he didn't know it so he was dismissed without being questioned. If you don't know the NCO creed by heart, don't bother attending the board. 9. Even though you are out in the field you can still find someone with an iron or a black marker. Make sure your LBV's buttons are colored black, your boots appear clean, your kevlar's chinstrap fits tight, and your kevlar cover is serviceable
Those are the things that I noticed from my three boards. They are all field boards so I can't give any info on boards back home till I go to them. I was the recorder also so I know how the scoring works, at least about my battalion. Every board member scores every soldier on appearance, reporting, etc. and their own subject areas on a scale of 1-5. Most likely they will give the first person, if he does a decent job straight 4s across the board, because they don't want to overscore or underscore the first person, because they might have a soldier doing better later on and they don't want to give them the same score if one did better. PT and weapons scores are important too. You can get 10 whole points if you get expert and above a 270 on your PT. So I suggest you know your subjects, but if you choke at the board, be loud and confident about what you say and say you don't know the answer.
That's about all the advice I can give at this point, but if I come up with some new stuff, I'll definitely let you know.
By the way, if you ever want to try out for the Sergeant Audie Murphy board you have to be extremely efficient and confident about your subject materials or you will not be sent on to the next board. That board is the hardest board in the Army so you will have to be high speed on your knowledge and leading abilities. At the Sgt. Audie Murphy board they will more likely ask you situational questions as well as exact FM numbers, and regulations.
Good luck and keep studying.
Posts: 432 | Location: Fort Bragg, NC | Registered: 13 September 2003
Now that is some good advice. And the part about knowing the NCO Creed by heart is so important. The last board I went to 4 out of 8 Soldiers were told to "GET THE HELL OUT", just for not knowing the creed. Sadest thing about those 4 one of them was going for E-6.
Posts: 67 | Location: Ft. Leonard Wood | Registered: 28 August 2003
wow, I've been asking these questions of my squad leader for about a week. I've been in my 1st unit less than a month, but I am definitely interested in just seeing what the board is all about, even if they don't feel I am absolutely there on my stuff. :? Do online army-related correspondence courses count towards much at the board?
Posts: 19 | Location: NOT CONUS | Registered: 17 December 2003
[quote:053e5060e2="funk021"]Do online army-related correspondence courses count towards much at the board?[/quote:053e5060e2]
Yeah when you do your "bio" you can include that by saying you have completed X amount of hours in correspondence courses. Also, have your first line supervisor write a memo about you attending the board and your accomplishments (PT Score, Weapons Qual). In there you can include correspondence courses. Good luck.
Posts: 40 | Location: Finally in the U.S. | Registered: 12 November 2003
Correspondence Courses don't really count. The board members only briefly look at your packet, but it won't matter with the scoring process really. The only things that count are your actions on the board, ie. your appearance, your actions, your responses, the way you present yourself, your PT and your weapons score. For the promotion board your correspondence courses don't really count either, but they count towards you getting enough points for promotion. So they are important, they just won't help you out during the boards too much.
I will try to continue to update this post as I find more information, gigs, and good things soldiers do.
Posts: 432 | Location: Fort Bragg, NC | Registered: 13 September 2003
one this i think that makes a big difference in the board is the shoes... laces tucked in and lots and lots of edge dressing.... edge dressing even on the top side of the edge so when you look down at your own you see it on the rim of the shoe.
and when the board members give you marching commands, swing your arms.. most people lock up way too much and dont move their arms like their suppose to.
and the biggest thing is relax.. i mean college speech was way worse than any board i went too.. especially if you know all the board members.
Posts: 37 | Location: horrible place | Registered: 24 January 2004
make shure you have the apperiance of makeing eye contact dont look at the roof or the floor if you cant look um in the eyes than focus on the wall directly behind them its a big gig if you let your eyes wander and most of the time it lets the bord know your makeing something up
Posts: 48 | Location: Ft Lewis | Registered: 25 February 2004
[quote:6cc335b8e4="Wolve"]Correspondence Courses don't really count. The board members only briefly look at your packet, but it won't matter with the scoring process really. The only things that count are your actions on the board, ie. your appearance, your actions, your responses, the way you present yourself, your PT and your weapons score. For the promotion board your correspondence courses don't really count either, but they count towards you getting enough points for promotion. So they are important, they just won't help you out during the boards too much.
I will try to continue to update this post as I find more information, gigs, and good things soldiers do.[/quote:6cc335b8e4]
I don't agree....I've sat on many boards and found that a person's record prior to walking in that door can already set in a voters mind whether this person is caring about their career and will remember that when casting the final votes. Get all the education (military or civilan) you can and let the board know it!
Confidence on the board is a must. You can be the dumbest Soldier on the block but if you come across as a very confident person you will impress the hell out of the board members. I've seen Soldiers that couldn't answer more than a few questions but were so damn confident and professional none of the board members cared.
Posts: 936 | Location: web surfing hell | Registered: 31 March 2004
all of these are fine guidelines to follow. I have two things to add; when it is your turn to report, beat the door down. Four obnoxiously loud knocks will get the board members attention and send a message to them to look out for this soldier...s/he means business. also keep your MILITARY BEARING. some board members try to distract you by not paying attention, acting like they aren't listening, try to make you laugh etc. just to see what your reaction is going to be.
also a tip for soldier/NCO of the month/quarter. pt and weapons qualification count as 50%...25% each...so try to max them. (it was when i went)
Posts: 28 | Location: korea uncsb-jsa | Registered: 05 April 2004
When reciting your creed(s), should you be looking the President of the Board in the eyes, or should you be looking straight ahead? (Which is most likely above the President's head, as you're standing and s/he's sitting)
Being a PFC, I'm not expected to have worn out my Class A's enough to need to replace them. So what should I do if I suddenly notice the manufacture of them is jacked up - the collar is lopsided. One side is (when you're trying to center the discs) noticably larger than the other. In basic, we wore them once, and had no clue what jacked up meant, as far as uniforms. In AIT, I only spent enough time putting them together for inspections to avoid getting chewed out for being really jacked up. But it wasn't until I was in a year that I actually spent time on putting them together, that I noticed this. What do I do?
And comment on volume: I have been to boards where the Soldiers and NCOs were specifically told to NOT shout their respective Creed. Sitting outside the conference room, waiting my turn, I cold hear people shouting their creeds. We were reminded again of not shouting the creed. The shouting continued.
So remember to follow any specific instructions you have been given.
If you're the sponsor, and going in ahead of the soldier, and greeting the board members on the way in, remember that the plural of Sergeant Major is Sergeants Major, not Sergeant Majors.
Above all, relax. Its just a bunch of E8s-E9s. :wink: They've all been there, they understand what you're going through, and most of them really aren't out to make you miserable. Though I have had a couple that were intentionally difficult. But you learn from them how better to deal.
You're not expected to already know everything. But if you can show improvement, that's something. The first board I went to, I didn't win. A few things happened in the next couple weeks that made my BN CSM take notice of me. The next month, I came back and won. And now I'm getting ready to compete at NETCOM. The times I haven't won taught me a whole lot more than the times I did. And I could go on and on with pep talk, but I think I had better shut up now.
Sir, Im going to disagree with you. I've been to plenty of boards in the last 7 months. Soldiers reciting the Soldiers Creed, NCO Creed, etc. should stand at the position of attention, which means head and eyes straight to the front.
Respectfully sir, Tenacious P is correct. When you are asked to recite the creed it is exactly that, a recitation, not a response to a direct question. The proper protocol is for the soldier to recite the NCO Creed from the position of attention, in which case the head and eyes are to be straight to the front with the chin drawn in so that the alignment of the head and neck are vertical. (oops, sorry, I flipped back into Drill Sergeant mode and started modulating there for a sec).
[quote:02bf349bf8="TenaciousP"]Sir, Im going to disagree with you. I've been to plenty of boards in the last 7 months. Soldiers reciting the Soldiers Creed, NCO Creed, etc. should stand at the position of attention, which means head and eyes straight to the front.[/quote:02bf349bf8]
Every single board I have been on the person calling you to attention is the president, which means you stand in the position facing the president, if not the president then you will face who over has called you into attention.
Posts: 213 | Location: Here, There, Every where | Registered: 06 July 2004