If I am reclassing thru the BEAR program, when I execute my reenlistment after completion of the school, can I still get the same options that any other mid career soldier would get? Just a little on me. I am a E6 with 5 yrs in. This reenlistment would be my second. The options I am speaking of are the 5 major reenlistment options. Sation of choice to be more exact. Also would I still get a SRB, that is if there is one at the time, or is this an option in itself?

Just so we're clear, the BEAR Program is an extension.

IAW AR 601-280, Army Retention Program, Chapter 6, paragraph 6-9c:

(3) Soldiers completing retraining under this program are eligible to reenlist at the training site under the provisions of table E-1.
(4) Soldiers who elect not to reenlist at the training site and who proceed to their ultimate assignment will be authorized discharge for the purpose of immediate reenlistment under the provisions of tables E-1 or wait until they fall within the “reenlistment window” for other options.

Bottom line is, if you reenlist at your follow-on assignment, you can get all options which qualified for ... you will not be qualified for Option 3, Army Training Reenlistment Option.

Also, as for your bonus ... this is not an option, but a bonus. You qualify for this once you graduate your AIT.

Again thank you very much for your knowledge. I wish you were my retention NCO.

Although I'm not assigned to your unit, I consider myself the Career Counselor to all Soldiers that come to this comunity for career advice. So in a away, I am your "virtual" Career Counselor.

Come back anytime!

OK here is what's going on I am a 13m my MOS is at over strengthed I have been to the 104 hour firefinders course but I am told that I cannot put in a 4187 to get the mos even after a 15 month deployment while doing the 13R job my questions are can I bear over, still get the bonus and choice of duty station, and maintain my promotable status or will it be suppended and I'll have to submit a new 3355 once I do bear over to 13R

When is your ETS? You cannot extend under the BEAR Program is you are outside of your 24-month reenlistment window.

Since your MOS is overstrength, you CAN reenlist for Option 3, Army Training Reenlistment Option if you are outside your 24-month reenlistment window.

Also, IAW the MOS Book, FA firefinder radar operators must possess the following qualifications:
(1) A physical demands rating of heavy.
(2) A physical profile of 222221.
(3) Normal color vision.
(4) Qualifying scores.
(a) A minimum score of 100 in aptitude area SC in Armed Services Vocational aptitude Battery (ASVAB) tests administered prior to 2 January 2002.
(b) A minimum score of 98 in aptitude area SC on ASVAB tests administered on and after 2 January 2002.
(5) A Security eligibility of SECRET is required for the initial award and to maintain the MOS.
(6) Formal training (completion of MOS 13R course conducted under auspices of USA FA School) mandatory.

(Sorry, no OJT qualified you for the MOS.

How many times are you permitted to re-class over the course of your career?

I have been told that you can do it every time you re-up, but you're not likely to be promoted as quickly, etc., etc., etc.

This depends on the situation.

Current policy only allows initial term Soldiers to be offered Option 3, Army Training Reenlistment Option (or Soldiers in an overstrength MOS).

Also, most Soldiers can request reclassification to a short MI MOS or special forces (one there, they will probably remain throughout their career).

There are also medical reasons a Soldiers can reclassify.

So, it depends on the situation.

Thank you!

My case is as follows:

I have been out of the Army for over 7 yrs, and am going back in for 25N. I served 4 yrs as 19K. If I do not like 25N, I want to go 35K (15W) UAV operator, which is in the MI branch. I know a lot of soldiers have secondary MOSs, but cannot recall whether I knew anyone who had a tertiary MOS.

Ultimately, I want to go to OCS, and complete a career in the Army. All of my ASVAB scores are sufficiently high enough to go into any MOS, and all of the aforementioned requires at least a secret clearance, so all of the requirements for 35K (15W) will be fulfilled when I am eligible for re-enlistment as far as I am aware.

Some things I know I have to consider:

1. The only guarantee is that I will carry an M-16.

2. 25N seems to be a desirable MOS right now, so hopefully be over strength in 2-3 yrs.

3. I need to plan ahead for the timing of my OCS packet, if I want to increase the probability of becoming an MI officer- my goal for the short run.

This depends on the current retention policy at time of your reenlistment and the strengths of both MOSs.

Here is the prerequisites for 35K:

Physical demands rating and qualifications for initial award of MOS. Unmanned aerial vehicle operators must possess the following qualifications: UAV operator MOS is closed to individuals in the grade SGT or above unless they have previously held MOS 15W/35K/96U for a minimum of 12 months at skill level 1 or 2, 18 months at skill level 3 or 24 months at skill level 4. Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) operators must possess the following additional qualifications:
(1) A physical demands rating of medium.
(2) A physical profile of 222221.
(3) Normal color vision.
(4) Qualifying Scores.
(a) A minimum score of 105 in aptitude area SC on Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) tests administered prior to 2 January 2002.
(b) A minimum score of 102 in aptitude area of SC ASVAB tests administered on and after 2 January 2002.
(5) The Soldier must meet SECRET security eligibility requirements prior to attendance/arrival to training. An interim SECRET security access granted by CCF meets this requirement.
(6) A high school graduate or equivalent.
(7) The Soldier must meet and annually maintain Army Class III medical physical. Soldiers must complete and pass medical physical prior to arrival at training base. Soldiers are not required to complete or pass the Type II decompression sickness/chamber training requirement. Soldiers found medically disqualified will follow procedures outlined in AR 40-501.
(8) Never been a member of the U.S. Peace Corps, except as specified in AR 614-200 (para 3-2).
(9) No information in military personnel, Provost Marshal, intelligence, or medical records that would prevent the granting of security eligibility under AR 380-67 (3.401.a).
(10) No record of conviction by court-martial.
(11) No record of conviction by a civil court for any offense other than minor traffic violations.
(12) Must be a U.S. citizen.
(13) Meet career management and development criteria contained in AR 614-200 and DA Pam 351-4.
(14) Formal training (completion of MOS 15W common core course and one UAV specific ASI Track conducted under the auspices of the USAAWC, Ft Huachuca, AZ) mandatory.

#8 makes me laugh! WTF!? just curious- is that stipulation due to the fact that there is the potential for killing bad guys in the 35K MOS?

So it looks like I will have to avoid E-5 promotion boards for about 18 months after I graduate 25N AIT, and also delay any thoughts of OCS for the same period of time.

I am in DEP- would it be any simpler to try to re-class now?

My recruiter, and my friend who has been a recruiter for the last 5 yrs or so, both say that "MOS shopping" at MEPS is bad. That is what got me where I am- I consider 25N to be an acceptable MOS, but I want to join the Army partially for the same reason as I did in 1996 (19K)- to kill people, not to connect people over the internet or intranet.

I took 25N because it has the potential to enable me to complete a degree online or otherwise, and to establish personal networks that may enable me to go to OCS. Additionally, it is a "marketable" skill, unlike a combat MOS, which got me nowhere in civilian life.

I have about 150 hrs of college credit, which are doing me no good right now, since my only degree is an AAS in Automotive Technology, which I completed in 1996 (before I joined the Army originally.) The rest is split between Mechanical Engineering and Finance.

My plan is to complete the Finance degree while in active duty- ME is too demanding to complete if you are working while in school.

I'm just trying to plan ahead, and not run over a series of land mines on the way to my goals.

quote:

Originally posted by F1 Fan:
I am in DEP- would it be any simpler to try to re-class now?

You are prior service and the Army knows you WANT to come in so don't push your luck and start asking and re-asking for things ... some people may get kind of tired of you.