Need to know the whole procedure and qualification to reclass using BEAR Program? it will be my first time and need to know everything i can, to make the right decision. im E5, 4yrs in jul. 92A to 92Y or 63B.
1. from what i heard, i need to pass some test to qualify and be assign to school?
2. and the bonus, only if you pass the test? what happen if you failed? they send you back to your old MOS?
3. your reenlistment contract, you sign after you pass the test or AIT?
4. do you have a say about your duty station?

thank you,

Im trying to do the same thing, but I have to wait until may when i come in my window. Basically,from what I know, you have to meet some basic requirements based on the MOS, thenyou get your school date when you extend your contract, and then you will have 90 days after you complete AIT to reenlist and get your bonus. I think if you fail AIT, you are sent back to your old MOS. AR has some better input but that is the basic jist of it from what I know.

To add, I dont know anything about a certain test you have to pass, but as far as your duty station, you are only guaranteed the MOS and that is it. You can however get in contact with the branch manager of your new MOS and try to work something out, but as far as I know, you will not be able to automatically get the duty station you want.

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Originally posted by SgtGuapo:
Need to know the whole procedure and qualification to reclass using BEAR Program?

1. You qualify for the MOS (listed qualifications below for both MOSs)

2. You extend your contract 2-years past the schools graduation date.

3. You go to school and pass it (AIT).

4. You reenlist within 90-days after graduation and receive your reenlistment bonus.

Wheeled vehicle mechanics (63B) must possess the following qualifications:
(1) A physical demands rating of very heavy.
(2) A physical profile of 222222.
(3) Normal color vision.
(4) Qualifying scores.
(a) A minimum score of 90 in aptitude area MM in Armed Services Vocational aptitude Battery (ASVAB) tests administered prior to 2 January 2002.
(b) A minimum score of 87 in aptitude area MM on ASVAB tests administered on and after 2 January 2002 and prior to 1 July 2004.
(c) A minimum score of (87 in aptitude area MM and 85 in aptitude area GT) or a minimum score of 92 in aptitude area MM on ASVAB tests administered on and after 1 July 2004.
(5) Formal training (completion of MOS 63B course conducted under the auspices of the USA Ordnance Center and School) mandatory; or meet the civilian acquired skills criteria listed per paragraph 9-5b(5)(b) of this pamphlet and in paragraph (6) below or a receive a formal training waiver approved by the Commandant, U.S. Army Ordnance Center and Schools.

Unit supply specialists (92Y) must posses the following qualifications:
(1) A physical demands rating of heavy.
(2) A physical profile of 222222.
(3) Qualifying scores.
(a) A minimum score of 95 in aptitude area CL in Armed Services Vocational aptitude Battery (ASVAB) tests administered prior to 2 January 2002.
(b) A minimum score of 92 in aptitude area CL on ASVAB tests administered on and after 2 January 2002 and prior to 1 July 2004.
(c) A minimum score of 90 in aptitude area CL on ASVAB tests administered on and after 1 July 2004.
(4) Normal color vision.
(5) Mandatory formal training.
(6) No documented instances in the last 5 years of conduct which reflects adversely on the character, honesty, or integrity of the Soldier to include:
(a) No conviction by court martial or by any Federal or state court.
(b) No juvenile adjudication by state court.
(c) No punishment under Article 15, Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) caused by incidents that reflect adversely on the Soldiers integrity and lack of trust.
(d) No letter of reprimand, censure, or admonition under the provisions of AR 600-37, chapter 3.
(e) Voluntary confession after proper rights warning according to Article 31(b), UCMJ, or under applicable Federal or state law. Note: Disqualification under this paragraph is waivable by a military review board.
(7) No other record of disciplinary action under UCMJ or pattern of behavior which indicates a lack of integrity or which is inconsistent with the 92Y position of trust.
(8) No conviction or other adverse disposition for criminal offenses listed as a misdemeanor or felony as outlined in AR 601-210, chapter 4. This criteria is not waivable.

thank you for the information, how about the test any words on that? and what they gonna do it you failed AIT?

Thank you SgtArms for your input.

not a problem, let us know how that works out for you. like i said, im just waiting till may when i get in my window. I am hoping to get a school seat rather quickly, but we ll see.

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Originally posted by SgtGuapo:
thank you for the information, how about the test any words on that? and what they gonna do it you failed AIT?

There's not "test" for acceptance in the BEAR Program. (Where did you hear this from?)

If you fail AIT, you will have to serve until your new ETS, as extended, in your old MOS. The Army doesn't just give something for nothing.

I am currently in the BEAR and would like to know upon reelistment is duty assignment of choice an option?

No, you'll be reenlisting for Option 1.

AR 601-280, Chapter 6, paragraph 6-10:
Soldiers participating in the BEAR Program may be forgiven up to 24 months of “previously obligated extended service” provided they reenlist (Option E-1 only) within 90 days after completion of training.

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AR 601-280

I have read chap 6 and, correct me if I am misunderstanding, if a soldier reenlists for any option besides E-1, then their 24 months of "previously obligated service" will not be waved and the bonus paid will only be for any new obligated service. So with a 4yr contract the bonus will be for 24 months not 48 months.

Exactly.

Did you go TDY an return or TDY enroute? What option are you looking for?

I should be TDY in return because I have dependences at my current duty station. I would like to reenlist after the school for an OCONUS duty assignment.

Ok, if you are TDY and return, you would already know this because it takes an aproval from your G-3 for funds (your installation must pay for training).

Did you pick an assignment you'd like to go after your AIT with your Career Counselor?

Well, my AIT starts a few months from now and I already have my follow on assignment. So I take it that means I would be TDY en route and I was not given the option to pick an assignment after AIT. (I was informed I would be TDY in return then PCS from home station, sounds not to be the case??)

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Originally posted by SGT_W:
Well, my AIT starts a few months from now and I already have my follow on assignment.

This is why I would LOVE to get the whole story up front.

Since your TDY and return was not approved PRIOR to you extending, you'll be going TDY enroute to (whereever your orders state).

Since you'll have a 24-month TOS requirement when you arrive at your station, you'll be reenlisting for Option 1.