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Greetings everyone, I'm new to this site.

I recently made the decision to join the Army. The recruiter told me I could not get a security clearance for awhile due to some traffic violations on my record. I know it pays off to research MOS's and come up with a decision early in the game, but he couldn't really be specific as to exactly which ones don't require any clearance. I searched the Web, and only found one list on a Yahoo Q&A page. So basically i just need verification on whether the following MOS's require a clearance:

68K Medical Laboratory Specialist
68Q Pharmacy Specialist
68P Radiology Specialist

The Yahoo answer said that there were ALOT of MOS's that DON'T require clearance -- which is contrary to what I've been told in face-to-face conversation with people. If anyone could set me straight on the above MOS's in particular, that would be appreciated, and if anyone could provide another list of MOS's that DON'T require clearance, that would be doubly appreciated.
 
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I don't know of any 68 series MOS that requires a security clearance ... not many MOS actually require an clearance.


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Originally posted by Thrashinator:
Greetings everyone, I'm new to this site.

I recently made the decision to join the Army. The recruiter told me I could not get a security clearance for awhile due to some traffic violations on my record. I know it pays off to research MOS's and come up with a decision early in the game, but he couldn't really be specific as to exactly which ones don't require any clearance. I searched the Web, and only found one list on a Yahoo Q&A page. So basically i just need verification on whether the following MOS's require a clearance:

68K Medical Laboratory Specialist
68Q Pharmacy Specialist
68P Radiology Specialist

The Yahoo answer said that there were ALOT of MOS's that DON'T require clearance -- which is contrary to what I've been told in face-to-face conversation with people. If anyone could set me straight on the above MOS's in particular, that would be appreciated, and if anyone could provide another list of MOS's that DON'T require clearance, that would be doubly appreciated.


Get a different recruiter. He doesn't know whether you can get a clearance or not, unless "some traffic violations" is a lot worse than you're implying. I've seen people with more than some traffic violations get or keep a clearance, and some with what I would consider minor problems get denied.

It sounds to me like he's trying to pigeonhole you and making up a reason to do it.


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A few things about this...

First I am unsure how traffic violations would limit your ability to get a clearance... If you had so many that they were causing you finanacial hardship, or were at the level of some serious misdemeanors etc. that might impact it. Before you decide you don't want to look into those type of careers talk to the Security screener at MEPS. They will have a better idea on exactly how eligible you are...

You are right, most MOS's do not require a clearance however some of those medical fields may since you will have access to peoples private personal medical information... at the very least I am sure you will have to sign non disclousure statements... The medical folks around here should be able to answer that more exactly.

Finally, and this is just heresay, but I do remember being told once that to reach the senior NCO level you have to be able to hold at least a Secret level clearance. Again I just remember being told that once. I will try and look for some specifics on that.
 
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You are right, most MOS's do not require a clearance however some of those medical fields may since you will have access to peoples private personal medical information

Nope, no enlisted medical MOS currently requires a security clearance.

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Finally, and this is just heresay, but I do remember being told once that to reach the senior NCO level you have to be able to hold at least a Secret level clearance.

AR 600-8-19, Enlisted Promotions and Reductions, Chapter 1:

1–15. Security clearance requirements
The following security clearance requirements are a prerequisite for promotion:
a. Promotion to MSG and SGM requires an interim secret clearance or higher.
b. Promotion to SPC through SFC requires the clearance required by the promotion MOS or an interim clearance at the same level.


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First of all, let me clarify my previous statement: "some traffic violations" = 2 DUI's, and between 10 and 20 minor violations (speeding, parking, failure to yield, tail light out, etc.)

So, having those 2 DUI's, there's (apparently?) no question that I am not eligible for a clearance. The Navy wouldn't let me join based on these violations, which is why i'm joining the Army. But the idea is to get the most appropriate MOS for myself. I'm a smart guy, will score high on the ASVAB... I just want what's best for my family and I.

The recruiter suggested more than once the MOS "Petroleum Supply Specialist". I looked it up, then thought about it -- petroleum anything is kind of a big deal in the world right now, there's a sign on bonus for the MOS (which to me, is sort of a red flag). Not that I might not enjoy this MOS, but the fact that the recruiter suggested it TWICE, and just kind of shrugged at my question about at least THREE other MOS's had me scratching my chin and raising my brow.

So to clear things up: I KNOW I won't be getting a clearance -- I just need to know for sure EXACTLY which MOS's I have to choose from, so that I can make the best choice.

It would be wicked righteous if I could get one of the three previously stated. :-D

Thanks everyone, all help is greatly appreciated.
 
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In reply to Dog Robber's comment concerning promotion:

I don't know that this will apply to me, if everything goes according to plan. The plan at this point is to finish my degree (which I'm very close to, just cannot right now due to financial constraints), then become commissioned. However, as we all know, the best laid plans...

So, any input on the above idea would be greatly appreciated as well.
 
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Originally posted by Thrashinator:
"some traffic violations" = 2 DUI's, and between 10 and 20 minor violations (speeding, parking, failure to yield, tail light out, etc.)

The Navy wouldn't let me join based on these violations ...

But the idea is to get the most appropriate MOS for myself...

I'm a smart guy ...

I just want what's best for my family and I.

Wow, just wanted to break down some of the crap you were saying ... if you were such a "smart guy" and you "want what's best for your family", why in the hell would you have two DUIs? Roll Eyes


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As for the MOS your recruiter is pushing down your throat, I would think long and hard on it. It was my MOS when I was enlisted. Basically you are a fueler. Not only do you literally squeeze a handle to pump gas into a vehicle, but you do it in the most awful weather you can imagine, hahaha. There is a lot more to it, especially if you can get into a hot fuel spot, but those slots are reserved for senior NCO's. You would most likely do bulk fuel and there's no real "edge" with that. Yes you learn your job and you are in the petroleum field, but you have no technical or chemical to amount to something that would get you ahead in that industry. It's more, setting up mobile fueling points, fuel storage, the operation of different fueling vehicles, etc.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent, just didn't want you to think you'd be a "hot commodity" coming out of the military with that particular MOS in this day and age of petrol....


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The DUI's happened a while back, before I gave any thought to starting a family. Hindsight being 20/20, I would never again put myself or my family in the situations that led to those violations.

Thanks for your help.
 
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whiskeywife:

Thank you for relating your specific experience; this is the kind of input that helps the most. Honestly, judging by the name alone of that MOS, it did not sound appealing to me. Now that I've got better understanding of it, I think that one's a definite "no" now.

Thanks.
 
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Just a little update:

Took the asvab yesterday, got AFQT 98 and over 130 on all line scores.

The recruiter is telling me it's going to be difficult finding me a seat for any of the medical MOS's because the training is long, limited, and full right now. I'm sticking to my guns as much as possible, but i need some back up options.

So, can anyone suggest some good MOS's (that don't require security clearance) that would put my scores to good use?
 
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