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I'm curious on this. I've tried looking the regs up on this but can't find it. For about 5 years now I've put 550 cord over the chain of my dog tags. Not the 550 cord alone. I take the stings out from in side first. I've known that you shouldn't use 550 cord it self though. I always leave about 1/4 the chain visible so it can break away. But just the other day someone told me I can't wear that. They also told me the clear plastic one you can get from clothing and sales is for a medical reason only. If anyone has any info on this please let me know. I'm thinking it's just a bs thing right now but I could be wrong.
 
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Never heard that you cannot use 550 cord or plastic from clothing sales. For the longest time I did use the outer part of the 550 cord to keep the neck/back hair from getting in the chain, stopped because it would smell after awhile. You might try looking in 670-1, pretty sure it has something about ID tags.
 
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http://www.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFI36-3026(I).pdf

19.18. Requirements. Military personnel will wear their tags at all times when:
19.18.1. In a field environment.
19.18.2. Traveling in an aircraft.
19.18.3. OCONUS.
19.18.3.1. Advanced Senior ROTC (ASROTC) cadets are authorized issuance of ID tags when engaged in field training exercises or traveling in military aircraft.
19.18.4. ID tags are government issue and are not personal effects. When death occurs, ID tags will be disposed of as specified in FM 10-63, Handling of Deceased Personnel in MWRs of Operations, for temporary burials overseas. The tags will be placed on the remains when prepared for final burial AR 638-2, Care and Disposition of Remains and Disposition of Personal Effects, 9 February 1996.

Deosn't say anything about what you're talking about.


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You wear your ID tags around your neck? I girth-hitch it on my pant belt loop and keep in my back left pocket.

Oh, there's also one laced in my right boot.
 
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You wear your ID tags around your neck? I girth-hitch it on my pant belt loop and keep in my back left pocket.

Oh, there's also one laced in my right boot.


Since when is putting your tags on your belt loop and stuffing them into your pocket authorized?

Other then pt (like the reg says) and working on equipment or machinery, I don't see a reason why they can't be around your neck...

From AR 670-1

1–16. Wear of identification tags and security badges
a. Identification (ID) tags. The wear of ID tags is governed by AR 600–8–14.
(1) Soldiers will wear ID tags at all times when in a field environment, while traveling in aircraft, and when outside the continental United States.
(2) Personnel will wear ID tags around the neck, except when safety considerations apply (such as during physical training).
b. Security identification badges. In restricted areas, commanders may prescribe the wear of security identification badges, in accordance with AR 600–8–14 and other applicable regulations. Personnel will not wear security identification badges outside the area for which they are required. Personnel will not hang other items from the security badge(s). The manner of wear will be determined by the organization that requires wear of the badges.


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Since when is putting your tags on your belt loop and stuffing them into your pocket authorized?



In certain MOS's this is the preferred method. For example, I work at the USDB, I loop them around my belt loop and put them in my rear pocket as a precaution. An inmate could seize the opportunity to grab them and choke me with them. Our CSM has stated that is how he would like us to wear them.


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Originally posted by Go Ordnance:


Since when is putting your tags on your belt loop and stuffing them into your pocket authorized?



When I was still on Bragg and had airborne ops, we'd always do that.
 
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it's standard SOP for the medics in my husband's unit....


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ok...what you have always done is different from what the regs say. It doesn't say "If your a whatever MOS you are authorized to wear your tags around your belt loop and in a pocket"


jgarner,

Since when can someone get choked out with a chain? You must have some special made chain or something cause mine breaks just by running sometimes. I have even had mine break by putting my seatbelt on in my car.

airgigeo,

I can see putting your tags on your belt when you are actually going to jump as the chain may break or whatever, but what about just a normal duty day? What during the normal duty day is soooo dangerous that you just have to have your tags in your back pocket?


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jgarner,

Since when can someone get choked out with a chain? You must have some special made chain or something cause mine breaks just by running sometimes. I have even had mine break by putting my seatbelt on in my car.


I could do it to you, if you want me to demonstrate. It's a matter of exerting the force in such a way that it transfers laterally instead of longitudinally.


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A. If you let an inmate choke you with your dog tags, you deserve it.

B. If you work with inmates you should be properly trained in the modern army combatives program and should know how to not get choked out by your dog tags.

Personally, I really don't care how they are worn, I was just stating the fact that the reg says they will be worn around your neck. In my opinion, the only "real" reason to have them in your pocket is when you take them off to work on electronics or machinery...and before anyone gets butt hurt, I said IN MY OPINION.


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could you clarify the reason behind girthing them on belt loop and putting them in pocket I am in a med co and yes I have seen lots of individuals wearing them like that thought it was just a cool thing the cool kids did
 
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Doesnt the regulation state you wear them when ordered by the Commander, so if I am not in training environment, in the field, in an Airplane, just going to work, and the CO did not put out I have to wear them, I dont have to right? So if I then put them on my belt and my pocket, Im doing better than not having them at all....???? Thats just my opinion.


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AR 670-1

1–9. Uniform appearance and fit
a. Appearance.
(1) All personnel will maintain a high standard of dress and appearance. Uniforms will fit properly; trousers, pants, or skirts should not fit tightly; and personnel must keep uniforms clean and serviceable and press them as necessary. Soldiers must project a military image that leaves no doubt that they live by a common military standard and are
responsible to military order and discipline. Soldiers will ensure that articles carried in pockets do not protrude from the pocket or present a bulky appearance.
(2) Wear of items on uniforms.
(a) When required and prescribed by the commander, soldiers may attach keys or key chains to the uniform when performing duties such as charge of quarters, armorer, duty officer/NCO, or other duties as prescribed by the commander. Keys or key chains will be attached to the uniform on the belt, belt loops, or waistband.

It says when required and prescribed by the commander you can wear keys or a key chain on your belt loop...not your tags.

It doesn't say anything else about being authorized to have anything else attached to your belt loop.


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This is like me saying "well my CSM said that we don't have to blouse our pants during the duty day." Even though the reg says not below the third eyelet. So just because a CSM tells you to do something means it's within the regs? Nobody wants to call them on it probably because it "looks cool" when you put your tags on your belt loop, or it's more of a convenience to have them there instead of around your neck.


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