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[quote:f679c1c488] SGT DAWG

Then I went TDY for 90 days. When I came back I found out that the E-8 changed some info and put his data in and forged my name.

Sgt

It sounds to me that E-8 needs a referesher course on army values, especially Integrity..

Just my 2 cents


As for awards I say if your chain of command says yopu deserve one fine. But if you don't get over it.[/quote:f679c1c488]
 
Posts: 300 | Location: Where all discharged soldiers go | Registered: 24 November 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post


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I recently came across an award that I thought was very silly. It was an ARCOM for ETS, here are the bullets:
[quote:b4b8e99b06]Specialist_____ demonstrated the ability and knowledge in surpassing desired results while serving as the Administration Specialist during her assignment with the ____________________. She willingly provided professional suppor and assistance to her superiors and subordinates alike in all aspects of personnel management and support.[/quote:b4b8e99b06]
[quote:b4b8e99b06]Specialist _____ enthusiastically accepted the role ast the ___________________ Guide Arm (that's how it's actually written people) Bearer from________to________ and performed this mission throughout her tenure with the_____________________________with dignity and the utmost professionalism.[/quote:b4b8e99b06]
[quote:b4b8e99b06]During_________Specialist________ was selected as the Soldier of the Quarter for the ___________________(for the unit, not even for the Bn). Specialist ______ preparation for such an outstanding achievement depicts her superior performance and adherence to high standards that she has demonstrated throughout her assignment with the unit.[/quote:b4b8e99b06]
 
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Let's face it, awards (outside of PCS awards) are often luck of the draw. I know soldiers who have literally hundreds of coins and mulitple impact AAMs. I think I have maybe 23 coins and 2 imact awards (from an 18 year career). The impact awards seem to mostly result if the soldier works for someone who thinks to put them in for one. I know that one of my soldiers has to do something pretty outstanding before I'll put them in for an impact award, more often, I'll try to get them a coin.

Coins are a pet peeve with me, since I can remember many times that myself and other soldiers busted our butts on a detail or asignment, and then watched the soldiers who held the door for the General get coins while we were ignored. It wasn't so much not getting the coin as it was the lack of recognition and feeling of being ignored. So I try to remind senior officers/NCOs when I think my soldier's deserve recognition.

Bottom line, awards have always been somewhat arbitrary. We've all seen awards downgraded for no other reason than awards branch not wanting to give an E-2 an ARCOM. And we've all seen soldiers get impact awards for cutting the grass. It's our responsibility as NCOs to clean this mess up.
 
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I do feel just as frustrated with the award system as most of the soldiers on this thread. I have received three coins in my career, two of which was for volunteering for a deployment. I've seen soldiers in my unit who have hounded the leadership of other units for coins and NCO's in my unit who received coins for overseeing a task that was handled by me and other soldiers in our unit. We never even got to see it. It's disappointing when the leadership can be pushed over to hand out awards like it's 10 cent candy to just the leadership in the unit while the junior enlisted continue to bust their butts working extra hours or extra duty to perform the unit's mission. I've seen this all too much, from processing award recommendations to standing in formation watching the awards get presented.
 
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Where would you find the regulation for "impact awards"?
 
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Originally posted by sgtmiles:
How many times have you seen a soldier get an award for doing their job, or for having a clean room. I believe awards are for going above and beyond just your job.


I agree with you for the most part. However, if I was doing room inspections and one soldier's room was better than everyone else, they'd get recognition. They're not getting a MSM, but a 3 day pass? Why not? Yes, they're all doing their job but when one soldier is performing at a higher level than their peers, (not so much about the room now) they should be recognized.

For example, if I had a soldier pass a PT test with 75%, 90%, 90% I'm going to tell the soldier they need to step it up and give suggestions on how to improve in the 75% area. He's still done his job, but I'm asking for more.

I think that we are really quick to light a soldier up when they do something wrong but often don't tell them when they do a good job.
 
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Originally posted by gi_janearng:
I do feel just as frustrated with the award system as most of the soldiers on this thread. I have received three coins in my career, two of which was for volunteering for a deployment. I've seen soldiers in my unit who have hounded the leadership of other units for coins and NCO's in my unit who received coins for overseeing a task that was handled by me and other soldiers in our unit. We never even got to see it. It's disappointing when the leadership can be pushed over to hand out awards like it's 10 cent candy to just the leadership in the unit while the junior enlisted continue to bust their butts working extra hours or extra duty to perform the unit's mission. I've seen this all too much, from processing award recommendations to standing in formation watching the awards get presented.


We enforce Democracy we don't always practice it in the Army HOOOAH!
 
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It's amazing that seniors have more bearing when recommending awards. I put one troop in for an AAM with two ver stron bullets to validate it. I felt it was well deserved. A few months later I saw my platoon SGT had put in a similar award for another Soldier. Grant it he ran it by me since it was my Soldier. His award goes through with recommendation for COA and gets upgraded to AAM. The award I put in went the opposite. Same event differant ranks submitting for differant Soldiers. Both me and PLT SGT are highly credible folks in my company but before a panel of reviewers they held more value in the seniors one generic bullet. Kind of chaps my ass. secnond to that is wieght of awards for Soldier just doing their job and NCOs busing their asses and Soldiers get more recognition from leadership than the NCO. *scratching my head.* Is leadership failing me or should I just be a selfish prick and start submitting impact statements for all the awesome things ive done?
 
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