I'm a military liaison at Brant Hall on Fort Gordon. Anyone coming in as a 25F now receives 25N training.
I am also a current student in the 25N transition course. It's the second ever course, so there are still bugs being worked out. It's 10 weeks long, and at the end you get a 1059. They're still smoothing out the procedures by which your MOS converts. A couple of my buddies went through the first class and their ERBs still list them as 25F, though our supervisor sent their certificates up to Signal Towers.
All 25F need to stress to Leadership/Chain of Command/Schools NCO that they must attend one of the few methods to transition to 25N. In my opinion with the Army downsizing a Soldier that is untrained in his MOS (which a 25F changed to 25NY2 in untrained) is an easy target to take down to meet force reduction numbers.
The 10 week transition course is not recieving the needed minimums to be conducted and the last iteration of the course starts in September. Procrastination may lead to a bad situation for former 25F who have bot been trained as 25N.
Posts: 27 | Location: Fort Gordon, GA | Registered: 21 April 2006
SIGYEO, It is not a matter of "stressing" to the Chain of Command/Leadership/Schools NCO, etc. The problem is no information has been put out correctly and most units like mine (overseas) are not MTOE'd 25N's until October and will not pay TDY and return to reclass 25F's. What needs to happen is Signal Branch needs to request that HRC push out a MILPER message stating a deadline that all 25F's MUST do one of the methods for transition to 25N. We can't depend on a memorandum that came from some random person asking us to reclass. It needs to be official and from "big army". Give the 25F's some legitimate power to show their commands that they MUST support this transition and not make it a choice.
Posts: 11 | Location: Waegwan, Korea | Registered: 21 May 2008
I do not believe it's a problem to just cut and paste if not delete.
You are being sent this e-mail in reference to the recent deletion of MOS 25F. When the 25F MOS was deleted all former 25F were converted to 25N and given the ASI Y2 (Training Required). The ASI Y2 denotes a Soldier who is not fully MOS qualified. Although this identifier does not stop a Soldier from reenlistment, eventually it will. It is the Soldier?s responsibility to check their ERB (Enlisted Records Brief) to see if they have the Y2 ASI.
If a Soldier has the Y2ASI there are several things they need to check.
1. If the Soldier attended 25F (train as 25N) AIT (260-25F10 (Network Switching Sys Opr-Maint)) between 1 October 2012 and 30 September 2013 they are a fully qualified 25N. The Soldier needs to take their 1059 to their BDE S1. The BDE S1 will delete the Y2 ASI.
2. If the Soldier attended 25F ALC (Advanced Leaders Course) 260-25F30-45 (Network Switching Sys Opr-Maint ALC) between 1 October 2012 and 30 Sep 2013 they are a fully qualified 25N. The Soldier needs to take their 1059 to their BDE S1. The BDE S1 will delete the Y2 ASI.
3. Soldiers who have successfully completed a WIN-T NET (New Equipment Training) need to e-mail SFC Peterson in OCOS (Office Chief of Signal) their certificate and he will evaluate whether the Y2 identifier is removed. Email:
If the Soldier does not fall into one of the previous categories they need to attend the 10 week 25F/ N Transition Course (260-25NY2 (T) (CT) (Nodal Network Systems Operator-Maintainer) at FT. Gordon.
Funding is available for Soldiers attending the 25F/ N transition course. TDY and return Soldiers contact your Training/ Schools NCO to get enrolled in the course. Soldiers TDY enroute please contact your Professional Development NCO at the U.S. Army Human Resources Command for a scheduled course date.
Reference used for this e-mail Milper Message Number 13-127