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I'm thinking about going SF and i wanted to know if there was any website, besides goarmy, and army.mil, that has information on what to expect, and what to bring. I missed my last SF brief because of Duty.
 
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Im still a Sphomore in High school but Im going to do the DEP. After I finish school I really want to go special forces primarily Delta Force. Is therew any thing i can do to prepare for special forces training.


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Last time I checked, you've either go to have alot of experience (years wise) with either Rangers or Special Forces to even begin to think about Delta Force... I'm not trying to burst your bubble but you've got to be in the best possible shape your body can be in. 120 pushups in 2 minutes, as well as other tough standards are what you need to practice with, that doesn't even address the actual standards. And I also believe you need to have a Bachelors Degree to be in Delta Force (Political Science, International Relations, are good degrees for this type of career).

One way you can get ready is study this site and memorize all the possibly helpful information, especially information coming from the "Soldier's Manual of Common Tasks - Skill Level 1". Go onto Amazon.com and look for Special Forces Training Videos/Books. There are quite a few of them, like the Ranger Workout or the Seals Workout. I'd even go as far to say study for the ASVAB to get the best possible score. Knowing a second language very well before you even get into the Army will also be very helpful.

I am a Reservist (Military Police) who is going through ROTC with the intention of becoming an Ranger (Infantry) officer someday. Special Forces training is incredibly tough. I've thought about it, but I've got reservations about it. It's basically a life choice, your always deployed or training. You don't have much of a life. I have a friend that enlisted with the Special Forces option, and he barely made it through the first phase. Your body goes into shock with the training you get. Either way get ready now! You can do split option, and get basic training out of the way the summer after junior year.
 
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You can only do split-option for the reserves, not active duty. You do not have to have a BA for Delta Force if you're enlisted, but every little bit helps. There's not a whole lot siad about how to get in. Anyone (prior service) can volunteer, but SF is the easiest way to get there. If you pay attention to the Army Times, you'll notice that Delta advertises when it is recruiting. SO the best thing to do is enlist (or go to college and get your commission), then work your absolute hardest to be the absolute best soldier you can be. When you get to be a SPC or CPT, pay attention to the personnel messages or Army Times, and volunteer for Delta.

It's a heck of a life....good luck.
 
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thanx
 
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[quote:6e64986430="PrivateChamberlain"]Last time I checked, you've either go to have alot of experience (years wise) with either Rangers or Special Forces to even begin to think about Delta Force... I'm not trying to burst your bubble but you've got to be in the best possible shape your body can be in. 120 pushups in 2 minutes, as well as other tough standards are what you need to practice with, that doesn't even address the actual standards. And I also believe you need to have a Bachelors Degree to be in Delta Force (Political Science, International Relations, are good degrees for this type of career).

One way you can get ready is study this site and memorize all the possibly helpful information, especially information coming from the "Soldier's Manual of Common Tasks - Skill Level 1". Go onto Amazon.com and look for Special Forces Training Videos/Books. There are quite a few of them, like the Ranger Workout or the Seals Workout. I'd even go as far to say study for the ASVAB to get the best possible score. Knowing a second language very well before you even get into the Army will also be [i:6e64986430]very[/i:6e64986430] helpful.

I am a Reservist (Military Police) who is going through ROTC with the intention of becoming an Ranger (Infantry) officer someday. Special Forces training is incredibly tough. I've thought about it, but I've got reservations about it. It's basically a life choice, your always deployed or training. You don't have much of a life. I have a friend that enlisted with the Special Forces option, and he barely made it through the first phase. Your body goes into shock with the training you get. Either way get ready now! You can do split option, and get basic training out of the way the summer after junior year.[/quote:6e64986430]

to expand on this, from everything that I've ever learned about Delta, it goes a bit beyond just being a high speed soldier. You have to be the living embodiment of "Highly Motivated". Delta looks for soldiers who don't need to know the standards to push themselves. Delta looks for soldiers with not only the discipline to get a job done without question, but the brains to be able to get it done despite insurmountable odds. Not to say that Rangers aren't smart, because they are, but some aren't cut out for the sort of operations that Deltas go on. You have to realize that most Rangers are in the low to mid 20s, while the Deltas are usually in their high 20s to mid 30s (This is all from what I've been told, and what I've read, so anyone with better info feel free to correct me). I'm not saying this to discourage you or anything, but just so you know what you're potentially getting into. They are the most professional soldiers in the world. They eat, sleep, and breathe for duty. If you want to go that route, you have to be prepared to live that sort of life.
 
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Hi...I'm a junior. I'm guessing since the topic is Special Forces, I might as well ask your opinions on the matter. Basically, If I keep what I'm doing up, do I have a chance for SF?

I run and work out 5 days a week, swim once or twice a week. Right now I'm striving for a perfect score on the APFT.

Running: I haven't tested this out yet. As of now, I remember my longest distance being 3.5 miles on 6.5 miles per hour pace, and 1.25 miles on a 9.0-mile per hour pace. Yes, pretty bad. I've ran for only two months now, I started with .83 miles at 6.5 miles per hour being my max... So, I'm striving for a 12:00 for 2 miles on the APFT, then 5 miles with each lap under 8:00 (Ranger goal), and finally 10 miles a day at a good pace, with boots.

Sit-ups: When I tried the APFT test, I only got the minimum (to pass). I find it hard to do the sit-ups so quickly, and I also hate keeping my arms in the back of my head while I do them. Any advice?

Push-ups: I scored a decent amount above the minimum, but nowhere near the max.

I am not an endurance person. For example, I am a sprinter; I can do a lot of weight (especially for lower repetitions), and so on. So, endurance is a struggle for me. If I keep at it, will I be good?

About the ASAVB. When I went to talk to my recruiter the first time, he made me take a short test, on which I scored an 88. I actually had a perfect score in the entire verbal, but I was a bit slow on the math (at my school, we use calculators a lot so doing math without them is a skill I'm loosing). My recruiter was pretty surprised.... is this a good sign?

Also, I've got a good collection of Field Manuals at home; I visit this site and http://www.army.mil every day, http://www.train.army.mil weekly. I'm reading them casually now, but I plan to get more serious with them, especially the field manuals and the manuals of common tasks.

I go to an Ivy-prep school, I get good grades, and I might even be able to go to West Point (though I've been advised against it). I plan to major in philosophy, with a minor in military history. I'm wondering if I should go to the army right after college, or take a masters degree first. Advice?

I'm aiming for MOS 18A, or 18F (or maybe weapons sgt.). I really want to go officer though, and get "tabbed up". If anyone can give me any advice whatsoever, I'll really appreciate it.

EDIT: There was a poster of this guy at the recruiting center, he was airborne, ranger, special forces, expert marskman, pathfinder, and a lot of other stuff. What's it take to get like him?
 
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DWZ,

Being in good physical shape is only part of making it through SFAS and the Q Course. You also have to have the right mentality and be a team player. I can't stress enough that heart is key too. SF doesn't want a guy that will quit on his buddies, so if you can't force yourself to keep going when you think your body is shutting down, don't waste their time.

SFAS standards change sometimes but you should be able to run 6-7 miles cross-country. You should be able to hike cross-country with 60-80 lbs on your back for extended periods of time. Learning land navigation now will help. The last I heard, you must pass the standard PT test with a 229 or above.

You mentioned you're not an endurance person. You better change fast. SF is all about endurance.

You mention you want to be 18F. What the hell MOS is that?

If you want to go SF to sport a green beret or get tabbed out then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

Have integrity.
 
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Not spamming here, but try:
[url]http://www.professionalsoldiers.com[/url],
or
[url]http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=cd7e3d28664e39d048a06fafb8041a92&forumid=4[/url]

Both have experienced SF guys that are more than willing to help answer your questions, [b:f70198ae2b]but tread lightly.[/b:f70198ae2b] READ EVERY STICKY before even thinking about posting. My experience is profsol.com is a [i:f70198ae2b]little[/i:f70198ae2b] more laid back to newbies... but not much.

As for Delta... aren't you getting ahead of yourself? Thats like asking to be "the President" before you've even been elected Glue Monitor. As the guys from the aforementioned sites will readily say to you:
"Focus on the 25m target. Worry about the 1000m target when you get there."
For you laymans out there, don't try to run before you can walk.

[quote:f70198ae2b="EOD Bob"]If you want to go SF to sport a green beret or get tabbed out then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. [/quote:f70198ae2b]
Amen.
 
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[quote:06b55f7db4="DWZ"]Hi...I'm a junior. I'm guessing since the topic is Special Forces, I might as well ask your opinions on the matter. Basically, If I keep what I'm doing up, do I have a chance for SF?

I run and work out 5 days a week, swim once or twice a week. Right now I'm striving for a perfect score on the APFT.

Running: I haven't tested this out yet. As of now, I remember my longest distance being 3.5 miles on 6.5 miles per hour pace, and 1.25 miles on a 9.0-mile per hour pace. Yes, pretty bad. I've ran for only two months now, I started with .83 miles at 6.5 miles per hour being my max... So, I'm striving for a 12:00 for 2 miles on the APFT, then 5 miles with each lap under 8:00 (Ranger goal), and finally 10 miles a day at a good pace, with boots.

Sit-ups: When I tried the APFT test, I only got the minimum (to pass). I find it hard to do the sit-ups so quickly, and I also hate keeping my arms in the back of my head while I do them. Any advice?

Push-ups: I scored a decent amount above the minimum, but nowhere near the max.

I am not an endurance person. For example, I am a sprinter; I can do a lot of weight (especially for lower repetitions), and so on. So, endurance is a struggle for me. If I keep at it, will I be good?

About the ASAVB. When I went to talk to my recruiter the first time, he made me take a short test, on which I scored an 88. I actually had a perfect score in the entire verbal, but I was a bit slow on the math (at my school, we use calculators a lot so doing math without them is a skill I'm loosing). My recruiter was pretty surprised.... is this a good sign?

Also, I've got a good collection of Field Manuals at home; I visit this site and http://www.army.mil every day, http://www.train.army.mil weekly. I'm reading them casually now, but I plan to get more serious with them, especially the field manuals and the manuals of common tasks.

I go to an Ivy-prep school, I get good grades, and I might even be able to go to West Point (though I've been advised against it). I plan to major in philosophy, with a minor in military history. I'm wondering if I should go to the army right after college, or take a masters degree first. Advice?

I'm aiming for MOS 18A, or 18F (or maybe weapons sgt.). I really want to go officer though, and get "tabbed up". If anyone can give me any advice whatsoever, I'll really appreciate it.

EDIT: There was a poster of this guy at the recruiting center, he was airborne, ranger, special forces, expert marskman, pathfinder, and a lot of other stuff. What's it take to get like him?[/quote:06b55f7db4]


my 1st duty station was an SF unit so i'll share what little i have:

1) regardless of u being a tab-guy or not normal units require a 60% for passing their test; an SF unit requires a minimum of 70% for APFT.

2) airborne, not air assult, airborne would be great to do, too; but do it AFTER you get to the unit not before. at airborne school you get treated better if you are permanent party (no stupid details) than you do if you're in training status.

3) the guys @ the SF unit will be MORE than happy to prep you for a tab. you must be willing to bust your @ss, though.

4) the training (SEARS school; forgive my spelling) is about a year long in which you are awarded E-5 and a second language upon completion.

5) you get E-5 pay, language pay, tab-guy pay, jump pay.....in short, $$$.

6) equipment & special training that no one else will ever get

they usually go for the guys who try not to want it too much, like myself. i'm considering it, but i want to reclass and become proficient in my language first.
 
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