What do u think of junior offrs in these days.... :roll:

I think for the most part i have seen a lot of good junior officers. I am enlisted now...a CPL....and I will be attending WOCS soon. I have had some LTs who were really laid back and did their job but they let the PSG run all over them. I also now have a LT who still thinks that he is enlisted and runs all over our PSG. The best that I have seen is when the PSG and PL have a good relationship at work. They understand where their duties are and do not cross over into the others lane. Overall...most junior officers these days seem to be great soldiers but they just need to know what their business is and what the NCOs business is supposed to be. Oh yeah, and be a soldier....dont be some wimp who is all about paper pushing and afraid to get dirty with the soldiers. Even though you wont work directly with the soldiers all the time, they still respect officers more when they see that they are not afraid to do the things they are asking of the rest of the crew.
-CPL LaPlante

I seen a lot of good junior officers, but it's like any other rank...there's always a few that stand out. Since I have been in there where a few junior officers that asked me out and a LTC. That's not professional since all of them knew my rank, but thank god none of them worked with me! The ones I have worked with where VERY professional

For the most part, a lot of the junior officers I have met do the right thing. As a reserve officer, I find it harder to develop in the atmosphere do to the fact that there is a lack of good mentorship. It was not until I recently was transferred to a unit for deployment that I was placed in a company with 14 officers (9 that are CW2+). I would say that myself and the other young LT transferred in gained a lot of good mentoring and learning.

Overall, I would say Junior Officers have that equal thirds rule... 1/3 are ready to take charge from day 1, 1/3 want to do the right thing and just need that mentorship their first couple of years, and 1/3 would have been the first ones shot in vietnam.

Of course their NCO support would have to be the opposite for that unit to succeed. ie if the Officer is in the bottom third, their NCO support better be a tier one class of NCOs.

lol, don't be a wimp.

Not sure if this question was just for the enlisted side of the house, but...

I agree with what you said corpral, a good officer should be willing jump first off the cliff, and let his men know how many sharks are there..


Also,all the NCO's should want to help teach a new officer.As a pretty new officer my self, I would want my NCO's to give advice. Its no shame in asking for help, cause it could mean the difference in coming home alive or in a coffin.

Just my 2 cents.

-Lieutenant Green out-

its interesting to run into another corporal.... lol. I am a SGT now but not too many ncos come up as CPLs. Hence why alot of junior sgts dont know how to lead.

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Originally posted by SGT_Lipowski:
its interesting to run into another corporal.... lol. I am a SGT now but not too many ncos come up as CPLs. Hence why alot of junior sgts dont know how to lead.

So basically what you are saying is that a lot of NCO's that never wore the stupidest rank in the army aren't very good leaders?

I think your previous ncos are the ones that will be the biggest factor whether you will become a good nco or not. They can either teach you how to take care of your soldiers properly and train them, or they won't. When I was an E-4 my SSG keeps counseling me verbally about what's right and whats wrong, what to do in certain situations and what you have to do when you have to make a decision. He is a big influence on how I'm treating my soldiers now. You can self teach yourself by reading regs and training material but having a good NCO teaching you is the best way to learn.

I've been to ROTC before and I can tell that NCOs have a big influence on how new officers will turn out. The MS1 and MS2 years seems to give a big impact on these cadets. When I went in I was an E-3 and the Cadre treated me like dirt more so than others because I had more experience in the military than the regular cadets. They expected more from me and felt I had more to bring to the table.