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Some questions arose around the Reserve Unit I am at about E-5's getting there rank taken away from them after a year if not completing WLC. Can someone shed some light on this for me.

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I dont know if the Reserves still do it, when I first came in this policy was still in effect, you would get promoted to SERGEANT, if you did not attend PLDC within one year of promotion, your rank was taken back and you were a SPC again.

This is no longer in effect, you can become a Sergeant and not go to WLC within one year and still keep your SGT rank.


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PLDC used to be required. Now, things have changed and the only time you have to go to WLC is if you want to attend the E6 board. Same with BNOC. It is supposed to help those who deploy a lot and can't get a slot.

Now, I would suggest getting it done as soon as possible. Why wait until you are ready to go to the board to think "oh wait, I should go to WLC."


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If you are active duty can't you get flagged and barred from reenlistment for failure to progress if you have been an E-5 for a while and have not attended WLC.
 
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My good friend (recently promoted..finally), had a good 3-4 years without WLC. Not entirely his fault, mostly a lot of moving around and TDY. He was very high on the OML when returning from deployment, though. Prior to that, though, he hadn't attended and it hadn't been an issue..only was holding him up from making E6.
 
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Originally posted by DevilDog 2Soldier:
If you are active duty can't you get flagged and barred from reenlistment for failure to progress if you have been an E-5 for a while and have not attended WLC.


NO. But you cant go to the promotion board to SSG without WLC unless you are deployed.


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actually....
WLC is not a required NCOES for the entire ARMY, it all depends on unit policy. PLDC is a required NCOES, though, for SSGs to keep SSG rank


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I know at the unit I am in now they send all of the E-4'S and some of the E-3'S to WLC.
 
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I just graduated BNCOC not too long ago and the instructors there told me that TRADOC is revamping all NCOES courses....what I mean by that is that you need to have the level of NCOES prior to your promotion or you will fall behind, i.e. E-1 to E-4 for WLC, E-5 for BNCOC(soon to be ALC), E-6 for ANCOC(soon to be ELC) and so on.
 
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Originally posted by Shakezula:
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WLC is not a required NCOES for the entire ARMY, it all depends on unit policy. PLDC is a required NCOES, though, for SSGs to keep SSG rank


Wait wait WLC is not required but PLDC is????

Do you realize PLCD IS WLC!!


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yeah maybe I am an Rtrd. I was kinda meaning pldc... wlc is required for ssg but not for sgt. My bad. Thats the kind of info you get when intoxicated people post on the internet!


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ELC?
 
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MSG High, sorry, I can't remember what they said ELC would stand for. ALC is Advanced Leaders Course, so maybe ELC is for Experienced Leaders Course. Don't take my word on it though.
 
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Thanks ... first I've heard of that.
 
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Actually, concerning ALC, they are supposed to be running a pilot of it this fall. They are supposed to start including a lot of stuff from ANCOC in it. The theory is to teach SSG or SGT(P) the tasks of a SFC before they make that rank. The same for WLC and the soon to be ELC (or 1SG's course).
 
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