AR 611-21 will give you what you need to know. Based off of scores alone in particular CL you are good for Chaplain's ass. Now you also are going to need to be eligible for all the other prequals. That is where I don't have all night, but I pointed you in the right direction. You will also need to obtain a training seat, and be able to switch from your current MOS to the other, and that is where CURRENT in/out calls will help. All the info is available through www.armyreenlistment.com
I am currently a Recruiter, before recruiting I was a Retention NCO. This was 3 years ago, so I might be outdated.
If you are active duty you have already did your initial contract and reenlisted, where retraining is authorized. Going from an 88M to a 31B. You cannot retrain unless it is through the Bear Program in which you need a 110 GT score.
If you are reserves - retraining is as simple as doing a 4187 to transfer units and changing your MOS if they do not have your MOS or you can ask to get retrained through your reserve unit.
Does your scores qualify you for MOS qualification: 42A Human Resource Management - Yes 92Y Unit Supply Specialist - Yes 56M - Chaplains Assistant - Yes
There are other requirements for each MOS, such as law violations and educational requirements.
I would talk to your Retention NCO or Career Counselor.
Originally posted by ArmyMP84: What MOS are available for me to re-class to? On my erb it says GT-92 Elec-88 Food-86 Tech-91 Admin-92 FA-88 Commo-90 Cmbt-88 Mech-88 Maint-85. I reclassed from 88M to 31B in 2007 and am eligible to re-enlist in a few months, and would like to change my mos.
There is more to it than just your line scores? What rank are you? Do you have a security clearance? Profiles? Time on station/Date last PCS? Mid-careerist do not get Option-3 (Army Training), unless you're in an over-strength MOS. The BEAR program would be the way to go, but do you qualify?
It may be better to actually sit with your Career Counselor and get answers.
Would I be able to re-class to supply or 42a or chaplains assistant? (Any kind of desk type job?) Please let me know. Thanks.
Why a desk type job?
Posts: 686 | Location: ARMY WIDE | Registered: 10 February 2009
31B skill level 2 are balanced, but anyway; why don't you try the BEAR program for 35P. You have the TS and if you took the ASVAB after 1 July 2004, you have the ST score. Read below for requirements.
MOS 35P—Cryptologic Linguist (Crypto Linguist), CMF 35 20100525 a. Major duties. The cryptologic linguist performs and supervises detection, acquisition, geolocation, identification, and exploitation and analysis of foreign communications at all echelons using signals intelligence/electronic warfare (SIGINT/EW) systems. The cryptologic linguist copies, translates, transcribes, gists and/or produces summaries of foreign communication transmissions; performs analysis and ISR synchronization to support mission requirements. Duties for MOS 35P at each skill level are: (1) MOSC 35P1L. Identifies foreign communications from an assigned geographic area and categorizes signals by activity type. Analyzes foreign communication for information to support mission reporting requirements. Recognizes changes in transmission modes and tips the appropriate analytical or intercept authority. Provides translation expertise to analysts. Provides gists, transcriptions, or translations of foreign communications. Operates systems as needed to support SIGINT tasking, reporting and coordination. (2 MOSC 35P2L. Performs duties shown in preceding skill level and provides guidance to subordinates. Leads independent team level foreign communications processing operations. Supervises the language training of subordinates. (3) MOSC 35P3L. Performs duties shown in preceding skill levels and provides guidance to subordinates. Directs section communications signal collection and processing activities and determines priorities. Implement SIGINT emergency action plans in accordance with unit SOP. Provide quality control of SIGINT products. Serves as unit Command Language Program Manager. (4) MOSC 35P4L. Performs duties shown in preceding skill levels and provides guidance to subordinates. Supervise multi mode foreign communications intercept and processing. Refine Essential Elements of Information requirements for identification and extraction. Determine EW (EA/EP/ES) requirements for supported units. Supervise collection management. Coordinate collection activities across multiple disciplines and platforms. b. Physical demands rating and qualifications for initial award of MOS. The cryptologic linguist must possess the following qualifications: (1) A physical demands rating of very heavy. (2) A physical profile of 222121. (3) Normal color vision. (4) Qualifying scores. (a) A minimum score of 95 in aptitude area ST on Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) tests administered prior to 2 January 2002. (b) A minimum score of 92 in aptitude area ST on ASVAB tests administered on and after 2 January 2002 and prior to 1 July 2004. (c) A minimum score of 91 in aptitude area ST on ASVAB tests administered on and after 1 July 2004. (5) The Soldier must meet TOP SECRET (TS) Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) access eligibility requirements to be awarded this MOS. For clearance requirements to attend training, refer to the Army Training Requirements and Resources System (ATRRS). (6) Soldier must be capable of passing a counterintelligence scope polygraph (CSP) to hold the MOS. Soldier who refuse to take or fail a CSP will be reclassified. (7) A high school graduate or equivalent prior to entry onto active duty. (8) Meet hearing acuity test standards per AR 40-501 (table 7-1). (9) Demonstrate clear enunciation and comprehension of English and good Standard English grammar skills. Applicants who are not native-born citizens or who have not attended U.S. schools since the age of 6 must obtain a minimum score of 80 in reading and listening on the English Comprehension Level Test (ECLT) or American Course Language Placement Test (ACLPT). The Executive Agent for English is the Defense Language Institute English Language Center (DLIELC). (10) Soldiers accessing into this MOS must have a minimum qualifying score on the Defense Language Aptitude Battery (DLAB) or a qualifying score of L2- R2 (listening-reading) on the Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT) in a required and documented foreign language. The current and approved minimum DLAB score for accessions into this MOS at any given time will be reflected in the REQUEST program in accordance with the category of languages required and being recruited. If initial DLPT score is below L2-R2, the DLAB must be administered. (11) Never been a member of the U.S. Peace Corps, except as specified in AR 614-200 (para 3-2). (12) No information in military personnel, Provost Marshal, intelligence, or medical records that would prevent the granting of a security ligibility under AR 380-67 (para 3.401.a). (13) No record of conviction by court martial. (14) No record of conviction by a civil court for any offense other than minor traffic violations. (15) Must be a U.S. citizen. (16) Soldier and spouse must not have immediate family members who reside in a country within whose boundaries physical or mental coercion is known to be common practice, either against- (a) Persons accused of or acting in the interest of the U.S. or (b) The relatives of such persons to whom they may reasonably be considered to be bound by ties of affection, kinship, or obligation. Immediate family for both Soldier and spouse includes both blood and step-: parents, spouse, children, sisters, brothers, any sole living blood relative, or a person in loco parentis per AR 600-8-10. (17) Have neither commercial nor vested interest in a country within whose boundaries physical or mental coercion is known to be a common practice against persons acting in the interests of the U.S. This requirement applies to the Soldier's spouse as well. (18) Meet career management and development criteria contained in AR 614-200 and DA Pam 351-4. (19) MOS closed for reclassification to Soldiers who have been deemed permanently non-deployable in accordance with AR 614-30, AR 40-501, AR 220-1 and AR 600-8-101. Soldiers must meet the minimum criteria for retainability stated in AR 600-60, paragraph 4-2(b) and be fully deployable to all locations and echelons.
Posts: 686 | Location: ARMY WIDE | Registered: 10 February 2009
I bet I know why. That DLAB is the hardest, most confusing exam just about any Soldier could ever take.
If you are already fluent in a foreign language though take the DLPT since this will test your abilities in your already fluent language.
If you are a heritage speaker of a foreign language this MOS is great.
If not, DLI is difficult, and you still deploy to middle east rotations. Loosing the immersion/fluency you worked hard at since the Soldier falls into an analyst role in those areas if they do not speak Arabic or Pashtu.
I would deffenately try and raise the line scores so you can qualify for more jobs out there. The army is downsizing and trying to rid out the weeds so you deffenately want to stand out above others. Take a sample AFAST test online, just google it. If your sample test results say your scores are higher than what you have, a simple 4187 signed by your commander will get you into your local education center taking the AFAST test, skipping all the required classroom time that 1SG's are always trying to get their troops to attend. I've done this myself so I know it works. I've re-enlisted many soldiers by doing this as well. It is always nice to see a satisfied customer. Just keep in mind, If you score lower on the re-test, then your stuck with that score.
Posts: 3 | Location: IRAQ | Registered: 03 April 2011
I recently did a job scrub for a soldier, and instead of checking every single job that could be offered. Start with the Y/N (understrength) MOSs and the BEAR MOSs. See what qualifications you do or do not meet, but above all make sure that you do not settle for a job just because you qualify for it immediately. Do some research into it and see if you find it interesting to do for the rest of your career. If you fail the AIT for the MOS you will go back to your old job.
If you can meet the qualifications, or change what you have to meet them, then you should go for it.
Posts: 25 | Location: Germany | Registered: 27 January 2011