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I'm going to assume that this would be the place to post a Cav related question (here in the Armor forum) since there's no cavalry forum. Makes sense.

I know that spurs can be acquired through a Spur Ride. I also know that Scouts are authorized wear of the Stetson cav hat. I have a question about attaining it, though. I'm a brand new scout, formerly a tanker, and I'm in a new UA for the WVARNG, so I'm not too knowledgable on cav tradition yet, though I know lots is the same as Armor (I mean, it's like the father of armor, yet armor is bigger...hm...). Anyway, I know that the Stetson wear is authorized for enlisted soldiers according to everything I've been able to find, and a Spur Ride and no other requirements are accompanied with its wear (at least from what I've been able to find). My main question is, though everything I've said says that enlisted scouts can wear the Stetson, are there any other requirements and does this apply only to NCOs or all enlisted soldiers?
 
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It goes like this man, you can wear the Stetson without going on a Spur ride but do you really feel like you earned it? There are 2 ways to earn your spurs and stetson, and those are going to war with A CAV UNIT and going on a spur ride. I personally will not wear my stetson until March when I deploy and earn it the right way.
 
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SO I earned my Gold spurs with the 11th ACR and my silver spurs with the 3rd ACR I was deployed under them in OIF 3 so since ive got the order of the spurs from both of them for being attached to both of them should I be able to wear the combat patch?
 
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No, these two are completly different.

AR 670-1, Chapter 28-17, pg. 246 and Appendix F, pg. 336:

28-17. Shoulder sleeve insignia-former wartime service (SSI-FWTS) (aka: Combat Patch)
a. General. Authorization to wear a shoulder sleeve insignia indicating former wartime service applies only to soldiers who are assigned to U.S. Army units that meet all the following criteria. Soldiers who were prior members of other Services that participated in operations that would otherwise meet the criteria below are not authorized to wear the SSI-FWTS. Wear is reserved for individuals who were members of U.S. Army units during the operations.

(1) The Secretary of the Army or higher must declare as a hostile environment the theater or area of operation to which the unit is assigned, or Congress must pass a Declaration of War.

(2) The units must have actively participated in, or supported ground combat operations against hostile forces in which they were exposed to the threat of enemy action or fire, either directly or indirectly.

(3) The military operation normally must have lasted for a period of thirty (30) days or longer. An exception may be made when U.S. Army forces are engaged with a hostile force for a shorter period of time, when they meet all other criteria, and a recommendation from the general or flag officer in command is forwarded to the Chief of Staff, Army.

(4) The Chief of Staff, Army, must approve the authorization for wear of the shoulder sleeve insignia for former wartime service.

ALSO ....

a. There is no time-in-theater requirement to be authorized to wear the SSI-FWTS


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can you wear the stetson indoors? and do you have to wear it with the spurs?
 
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