I am new here so bear with me please. I was on active duty for 4 years and then ETS'd. I just recently came back on active duty, but since MEPS says I am colorblind I can only get 92M, same as before. I have a physical that says I passed the color vision test through a demonstration test signed by a Army Doc. Does anyone foresee any problems with me getting a reclass to either 11B w/ranger or 19D? My GT is 113. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

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Originally posted by spec4MAC:
Does anyone foresee any problems with me getting a reclass to either 11B w/ranger or 19D?.

Before I get to my answer, don't feel so bad about coming back on active duty in your old MOS. The Army obviously had a vacancy and deemed you MOS qualified. That's the main reason you didn't get the chance to get another MOS. Not because you were color blind. The overwhelming majority of Soldiers who reenter within a certain period of time go back to their old MOS. It always about the money.

As far as reclassing...it's possible, but I see a few things standing in your way. The following information is good providing you plan on reclassing by reenlisting for option 3 (Army Training Reenlistment Option).

1. I assume you are not within 24 months of ETS since you mentioned you just came back in. If so, you will have to wait until you are in your window.

2. As a mid-career Soldier, you will not automatically be eligible to reenlist for option 3. However, your MOS is currently balanced. You will need your MOS to remain balanced so that you can request an exception to policy that allows mid-career Soldiers in a balanced MOS to reenlist for the Army Training Reenlistment Option.

3. For 11B - Before you ask your Career Counselor to request option 3, go see the Army Eye Doctor and request to take a red/green color discrimination test. You will need to pass and give your CC the results. You will of course have to meet other prerequisites but in your case, that's the big one.

4. For 19D - The MOS proponent would have to grant you a waiver since you are color blind.

Well there it is. Possibility!!

Well I went through the same problem when I initially joined. They wouldnt give me combat arms because of the color vision. I will be in the 24 month window in March, I only signed a three year contract, and I plan on doing this as soon as i get back. I have already got a doctor to give me the discrimination test and I passed it. Now if I have that do I still need a waiver from the 19d Schoolhouse?

you might get a waiver to go 11B being colorblind, but good luck going ranger... can't be color blind and Airborne... good luck

You'd be surprised to know that AR 40-501 does not automatically disqualify you for Airborne or Special Forces. I am not sure but I think you are out of luck for Ranger because this regulation covers eyesight for Ranger, but does not mention being able to pass the color test. You need to read the updated regulation in chapter 5-3g. This is just a tidbit. Make sure you read all applicable stuff in the reg for yourself.

g. Eyes and vision.
(1) Paragraphs 2–12 and 2–13 with exceptions noted below.
(2) For Airborne and Ranger training: Distant visual acuity of any degree that does not correct to at least 20/20 in one eye and 20/100 in the other eye within 8 diopters of plus or minus refractive error, with spectacle lenses.
(3) For Special Forces training: Distant visual acuity of any degree that does not correct to 20/20 in both eyes with spectacle lenses. Any refractive error in spherical equivalent of worse than plus or minus 8 diopters.
(4) For Airborne and Special Forces training: Failure to pass the PIP set or FALANT test for color vision (see para 4–2a) unless the applicant is able to identify vivid red and/or vivid green as projected by the Ophthalmological

Also, you are correct. Your color blindness was the exact reason you did not get combat arms originally. However, like I said, you would not have had the option to choose another MOS the second time around. The reason is because you were MOSQ and there was a vacancy. Do you see the difference?

OUTSTANDING!! Thanks alot SSG. I can pass the Vivid red/green differential. All my buddies are Combat Arms and I want it so bad I can taste it. Plus I would like to get even for our troops I've sent out of here. One more stupid question......... 19D, how hard is it to get airborne? Yes I understand the reasoning behind MOSQ. I just think that its ridiculous that the Army says I cant be a grunt because I am colorblind. Hey they are shooting at me, maybe I need to shoot back! lol Thankyou all very much

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Originally posted by spec4MAC:
19D, how hard is it to get airborne?

If your unit requires it, pretty easy. If not, highly doubtful unless your unit has an incentive that allows you to go to Airborne School.

just reenlist for Ft Bragg... You'll get Airborne...

You can't reenlist for a new MOS, assignment and Airborne School; you only get one option at a time.

If you reenlist for another MOS, your follow-on assignment is not guaranteed.

Reenlist fir 11B. WHEN you go back to OSUT (Infantry Basic), Tell your Drill's Right away you want to volunteer for Airborne School... Not garaunteed, but I've seen it happen.

The recruiter just told me there was no way for me to go 11B since I'm red/green color deficient. I said, "Why do I need to see red and green perfectly to fight? Isn't the point of camo so you CAN'T be seen anyway? And who wears the red? Maybe the British in the Revolutionary War, but not Haji."