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51C, I know that there are always exceptions, but as a rule, how bad/good are the hours? In the rear are you on call all the time. Or can you count on your time off being time off?
 
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51C, I know that there are always exceptions, but as a rule, how bad/good are the hours? In the rear are you on call all the time. Or can you count on your time off being time off?


At Lewis we typically worked from 0830 to 1600. The hours down here are about the same. I've never seen anyone called in, we are typically exempt from any duty. When your BN MTOE is 8 people and the teams are 4, there is very little room for BS to go on as far as duties etc. Where I am, I know we are exempt from all post ran duty rosters etc.

You have to remember that you are primarily working with a civilian work force who does not work past their normal time. The only exception that I've seen is at end of year (late August - Sept) we started working longer at Lewis. The last week was 7 days a week, although the military typically didn't work as long on the weekends as the civilians.

Another caveat however is the availability to deploy. If any sort of contingency happens where Soldiers would be deployed to, you can bet that a 51C is going to be there first to set up support. We were at Katrina, California wildfires, typhoons in Asia, etc. Although rare, it is a possibility.

Missions TDY happen either a lot or very little depending on where you are at. Typically before you deploy, you can expect to goto NTC to support a BDE. You will get there a week earlier and leave a week later. BUT you are there fully TDY, staying in a hotel, drawing full per diem, rental car etc because of the mission requirements.

Deployed, totally different story. Most CCOs that I've talked to will work 12-16 hour days, 7 days a week. There is a huge, increasing workload and not enough people to do it. But a lot of that can be said about any MOS. Depending on where you are deployed, it always isn't a "fob job". If the things you need are out in a market, your gonna go out there to interface with the public to procure them to support the Soldier. With things in Iraq/Afghan now, this usually isn't due to the infrastructure in place.

Back to your original question, this has been one of the best things for my family. My wife loves that she will know what time I will be home everyday and when I have to go into work. I keep a cell phone 24x7, but I've yet to have really needed it.
 
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Good morning, my name is SSG Anderson and I am stationed at Ft. Lewis, WA with the 202nd BSB. I am looking into reclassing into the 51C MOS. I have a Bachelors degree and have 12 years of Active military service. I also have a 42A secondary MOS and have 5 years of experience in this MOS. I am currently a 92M. What are my chances of getting into this MOS and being able to reenlist for this MOS and being stationed at Ft. Lewis? Please advise.

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Good morning, my name is SSG Anderson and I am stationed at Ft. Lewis, WA with the 202nd BSB. I am looking into reclassing into the 51C MOS. I have a Bachelors degree and have 12 years of Active military service. I also have a 42A secondary MOS and have 5 years of experience in this MOS. I am currently a 92M. What are my chances of getting into this MOS and being able to reenlist for this MOS and being stationed at Ft. Lewis? Please advise.

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You don't re-enlist to get this MOS, it is a voluntary reclassification that is done with a packet. Put the packet together and apply, I know they are still taking people. A lot of the course information is changing right now.

Go talk the people at the 902nd CC BN. They are located over by MAMC. Go across the street from the main entrance and down the hill to the left. They will be on the right hand side in a big trailer looking building located next to TDS I believe. They should be able to answer some questions better in person than I can through here.
 
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I have submitted my packet for consideration, in the beginning of June and would like to know how long i should expect to wait before I hear back from the 51C proponent in regards to acceptance or rejection. Also, is AKO the primary means of communication?
 
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When I applied early last year, I was notified in 3 days via my Career Counselor. Currently however, I believe it can take up to two - three months to find out. If you have any questions about the status, I'd contact either the branch manager or the proponency SGM. He is a pretty approachable guy and will let you know what is going on.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply, I believe that I have his contact information.
 
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Can you please send me his contact info? Thank you very much. Where is the MOS training conducted at?


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http://asc.army.mil/career/programs/nco/nco_poc.cfm

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Training is going through a re-do process right now. Some people are sent to Huntsville for 7 weeks, some to Lackland for 8 weeks, and some to DC for 5 and then Huntsville for 2. Who knows it will end up as.
 
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I have been in contact with the 51C SGM and his response to me was "You can't submit a packet until you are at least 12 months form PCSing" Ihave been in the Army for a minute, but I will not pretend to understand all of the regulations in the Army. Does this statement reflect the fact that my unit is currently deployed? Anyone have any info on this matter?
 
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51C, just seeking a little clarification into some of the stuff I read in the post. You have to finish a degree within 3 years of being in the MOS correct? I am currently working on a degree is real estate but not close to finishing..just wanted ot make sure I could finish it within those 3 years and still be good to go. Also I am currently in Korea, due to PCS in May so will I still have sufficient time to complete my packet and submit it and get a response back about go or no go before I leave korea correct? Thanks
 
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So 51C NCO am I to understand that even though I am in an overstrength MOS that I will not be allowed to be assessed into the MOS until 1 March of 2011 (ETS March 2012) in spite of 92A20 and 92A30 being overstrengh MOS's?

Also what happens to a SM who is not able to complete his/her degree requirements in the alloted time are they put out as needs of the Army or are they discharged because they usually are either SSG's or SFC's I take it by the time there 3 years are over.
 
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Things are changing quite a bit right now from when I originally got into the program. From what I understand, as long as you are making sufficient progress towards your degree, you get to stay. But you have to understand that in order to be fully MOSQ, you are required to be DAU certified. Which in turn, requires a Bachelors.
 
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51C last few questions. On average how long does it take to go from submitting your application to being told if you were accepted or not. And lastly, what is the projections for promotions to senior levels looking like. Since its mostly SSGs applying is it a logjam to get to SFC and above?
 
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51C last few questions. On average how long does it take to go from submitting your application to being told if you were accepted or not. And lastly, what is the projections for promotions to senior levels looking like. Since its mostly SSGs applying is it a logjam to get to SFC and above?


I found out 3 days after I faxed the packet to the propenent office. I think right now it is taking anywhere from 20-45 days to find out. The fy 08 SFC board promoted 6 people and had slots for 13. No one else was eligible. This years board promoted 26 out of 32 people. All sequence numbers were called by the 2 month.

This MOS is top heavy, but at the same time, there are more slots for SFC and MSG than there are for SSG. Promotion potential from what I've seen is outstanding.
 
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