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Does anyone have any information on these mos's?
I am thinking about reclassing to one of them and I just want to here from someone with experience in this field.
 
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Hey. I am actually about to reclass to 46q here in a few weeks. Everything has been approved and my class starts on the 18th of May. I have chatted with a few people about it and I have heard nothing but great things about both of these MOS's. If you check under branch specific posts, under adjutant general, there is a few posts from me and someone else about 46q. I can honestly say I have never actually met anyone who actually is in either MOS. Keep in touch if you want, and I will share anything I can.
 
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I'm currently a 46R assigned to an MPAD (Mobile Public Affairs Detachment) that is comprised of 46Q and 46R only by MTOE.

There's a lot to be said about both MOSs really. One common misconception about these MOSs is that they are office jobs. At senior levels, just like most MOSs they can be, but junior enlisted and junior NCOs can still expect to be out in the field a lot covering stories. I will say one interesting plus to this job is you get to see and/or experience pretty much every other job in the Army. Since I've been in, I've covered stories on everything from PATRIOT missile launches and infantry patrols to the Army band JAG lawyers and everything in between. Sometimes the stories are fun, and sometimes boring (no matter where you go you'll still end up writing stories on changes of command and promotions which are really hard to make sound cool.) In the end, both jobs can be fun and allow you some creativity in what you do and write.

There are also lots of assignment opportunities. Every BCT and division has a public affairs shop, plus there are PADs (Public Affairs Detachment), MPADs (Mobile Public Affairs Detachment), and PCHs (Press Camp Headquarters). Plus then there are other assignments for 46Rs like AFN, Pentagon Channel, Soldier's Radio and Television, etc. I know there are some interesting specific jobs for 46Qs, I just don't happen to know of any off the top of my head. I will say with either MOS, you can go virtually anywhere.

A downside can be that lots of commanders don't understand what you do. I've had people ask me to everything from take photos of their unit (yeah, I carry a video camera) to video blogs home to their families. I also have done stories on units where they were really gunshy about media. I feel like I spend a lot of time trying to explain that I wear the same uniform they do, but they still don't want to be interviewed. I guess it just comes with the territory of being a journalist, but there are times when the military makes it awkward. It's really awkward to try to explain to a colonel why you're there and why you're trying to make them look good.

Also, a lot of people tend to leave the "public affairs" out of "public affairs broadcast journalist." My unit's mission in Afghanistan not only includes producing stories, but also involves facilitating civilian media: in short, babysitting. I help pick them up from the airport, arrange travel for them, make sure they have a place to eat, sleep and shower and do my best to keep them out of trouble. You could also be tasked to do things like write public affairs guidance, press releases, set up press conferences, etc. It's the public relations side of this job, which sometimes also involves a lot of brown-nosing. If you aren't a sociable person, if you're really shy, or you're not good at stroking egos, it may not be the best job for you.

Anyway, that's my job in a nutshell. I've got a lot of stories (both good and bad) of stuff I've gotten to see or do (or been made to see and do) and I'm always willing to answer any other questions.
 
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Easily one of, if not THE best MOS on BEAR.
 
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It really seems like it. I am not really sure what I will be doing when I get to my unit, but I am really looking forward to a whole different world. I just found out that my BDE that I am going to does have a PAD, so maybe I will end up there and be able to get some good on the job training.
 
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Thanks for the helpful feedback.
 
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My class date is 25 Nov. I was trying to reclass to something else through the BEAR and that fell through, so I was looking at the other MOSs and saw the physical demands rating: light and I was sold. I've been infantry for too long and carrying heavy things for miles upon miles is getting to me.

I went to the PAO office at my BDE to ask about the job before I made a move on it. Two guys sitting in there with CIBs and one female. One of the guys said something along the lines of, "As soon as I reclassed, I was told welcome to the big boys club."
 
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Im reclassing to 46R with a follow on assignment to AFN Wiesbaden!

I've also heard nothing but good things about these mos's. Not to mention good promotions and job satisfaction, wish I knew about these mos's when I first enlisted.

Anyone going to Dinfos in August?
 
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I will be actually leaving and graduating from DINFOS on august 16.
 
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My class date is 25 Nov. I was trying to reclass to something else through the BEAR and that fell through, so I was looking at the other MOSs and saw the physical demands rating: light and I was sold. I've been infantry for too long and carrying heavy things for miles upon miles is getting to me.


Just as a heads up, you may not go out on patrol as often as a typical infantryman, but I've been on a fair number of patrols in Afghanistan. It's part of doing this job. If you're going to write or produce stories on soldiers, you've got to get out there and actually film or photograph them being "two scoops of hooah." So fair warning: you'll wear and carry everything an infantryman does, plus your camera equipment.

A physical demands rating of light is correct when you don't factor in the actual news gathering you do.
 
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Originally posted by JGWest:
My class date is 25 Nov. I was trying to reclass to something else through the BEAR and that fell through, so I was looking at the other MOSs and saw the physical demands rating: light and I was sold. I've been infantry for too long and carrying heavy things for miles upon miles is getting to me.

I went to the PAO office at my BDE to ask about the job before I made a move on it. Two guys sitting in there with CIBs and one female. One of the guys said something along the lines of, "As soon as I reclassed, I was told welcome to the big boys club."


Hey, who are you with at bliss? That is my follow on assignment, to 15 cs sustainment brigade. Keep in touch, and I will make sure to give you whatever info and notes I can when I get there in either august or September.
 
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Originally posted by JGWest:
My class date is 25 Nov. I was trying to reclass to something else through the BEAR and that fell through, so I was looking at the other MOSs and saw the physical demands rating: light and I was sold. I've been infantry for too long and carrying heavy things for miles upon miles is getting to me.

I went to the PAO office at my BDE to ask about the job before I made a move on it. Two guys sitting in there with CIBs and one female. One of the guys said something along the lines of, "As soon as I reclassed, I was told welcome to the big boys club."


Hey, who are you with at bliss? That is my follow on assignment, to 15 cs sustainment brigade. Keep in touch, and I will make sure to give you whatever info and notes I can when I get there in either august or September.


I know this wasn't exactly directed at me, but I'm in a public affairs unit that falls under the 15th CSSB. There is the 16th MPAD, the 24th PCH, and I believe they are standing up 3 additional PADs at Fort Bliss that will fall under the 15th CSSB as well. My unit is coming to the end of our tour in Afghanistan, but I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you have. Again, sorry to sort of "steal" the thread.
 
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No problem stealing the question at all, I believe that's what the threads are for, to have everyone help each other out. I just have my brigade assignment right now, which is 15cssb, that's all I know. I am due to report September 30, but have early reporting authorized, and more than likely will be reporting early. Igrqduate school August 16, and will more than likely head straight there from meade. I may take a few days for household goods and transportation stuff, but that's about it. Have a separation and divorce pending, so no reason to hang around for all that drama or to take it with me I guess. I have never been in a sustainment brigade before, just armor, cavalry and infantry units, so this will definitely be something new and different for me. I loved el paso when I was there before, but wasn't to big on bliss, but at the time, 4/1 was the only major unit on post, other than some transportation units,the Ada school and the sergeants major academy. What can you tell me about 15cssb or any of the units I might be part of there?
 
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So if this position is as tactical as some say it is, then why are combat documentation specialists even needed?
 
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I was completely under the impression that this position was NOT Joker from Full Metal Jacket.

And all the 46Q/R's I have met have handled administrative roles not combatant ones.
 
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