Just as the name of the topic says, I am looking for advice on how to make it threw BCT and AIT.
Im not sure exactly where to start so ill just throw it out there, about a year ago to this date I had signed into the army as 11Xray/Bravo whatever it be. My MOS was the Infantry, now im sure I will get a few people who will "crack jokes on me" for this but it is what it is, im looking for advice to receive my blue cord and crossed rifles, not immature judgements about how I have "THS". Anyway, a year ago, I did not complete BCT for the solid reason I was stressed out (and yes I know, alot of people in BCT are also stressed out) and when I had seen people being sent home, I thought to myself that there was a escape from this, I wasnt confined here. So as I was discharged with a Chapter 5-17 with a re-enlistment code of a 3, I have recently started feeling the desire to go back and succeed where I once failed, redeem what I believe to be my honor and finally receive my Blue Cord. Any advice is greatly appreciated and more then welcome.
I hate to be the one to tell u this but you are not going to be able to go back in right now. Your only option is going to be sf candidate and if inf bct got u then I am really not going to recommend it. I am not inf but u have to tough though everything that is thrown at u and know that u are not the only one suffering. U should have taken a loom to the left and right and drawn strength to make it from your brother around u. If u do get back in I really do wish the best of luck to you.
One of the most difficult things that I encountered at FT. Benning was the week I was at 30th AG. When you get to your training unit just take it one day at a time. remember its just 14 weeks, and honestly BCT isnt a test of what YOU can do but how well your platoon works as a team. That is the largest issue with new soldiers coming in, they do not know how to work as a team. Bottom line is, OSUT is designed to make you fail no matter what, even if you do everything and accomplish all your tasks above standard. You will always fail according to the Drill Sergeants. It is designed to break you down and then build you back up. Dont quit and give it your all. Those 3 1/2 months will go by and it will be over with before you know it.
You are completely right. I should have just toughed it out, but I cant change the past now, I can only forge a new future one where ive learned from my failures and hopefully one of those lessons being me finally becoming a Infantryman, I thank you for wishing me luck, im sure I will need it when that day comes back around, but what exactly is "SF Candidate"?
You know something IR Strobe, when I arrived at 30th AG I too figured it to be the worst of the time I spent on Sand Hill, for the reason being I WASNT DOING ANYTHING. However when I got to my Company, once we got off that bus and made it threw our shark attack and then began Red Phase I honestly felt a bit more relaxed because I was finally doing something, not just sitting around. I suppose I had ONE moments weakness and followed threw with it thus leading to my discharge, which im sure thats all one person would need is ONE moments weakness.
SF is Special Forces. I'm not a recruiter so listen to waht ATC says. I do know it has gotten extremely difficult for prior service to get back in. If you can't and really want to, call your Recruiter about once a month to see if policy has changed. Recruiting and Retention are evolving organisms, in that they're in a near constant state of change. Yes, No ATC?
@ seven0821 you are absolutely right. basic is a joke and i did go through knox. from what everyone has told me that went through benning i did in fact have it harder(eventhough to me knox was a joke) basic is to fucking easy i loved it and if i could go back i would.
@ seejay 989- my best advice to you is to go back if you think your ready suck it up and drive on. the DS are not doing anything personnel against you they are doing there job which is to transform you from a civilian into a soldier in the short amount of time they have. just do waht your told when your told and drive on.
Posts: 4 | Location: FT Drum, New York | Registered: 31 August 2011
Ok, basic training is debateably the best time you will have in the army, and actually the most stress free in certain aspects. For instance everything is just told to you I.E. (get in formation, do pushups, brush your teeth, wash your ass) if you just follow orders your golden. In the real army nobody cares if you graduated top of your class in osut or basic/ait, they see it as your a soldier get it done. For my soldiers I give them a task and tell them to make it happen. You best believe that stresses them out, but that develops skill in taking initiative. The stressors one will experience in war outweigh basic training by a longshot. Im not saying dont go for it again but if you struggled through basic training then afghanistan is gonna eat you for a mid days snack. I have seen some professional bad ass' question their entire being due to this place, and alot of those guys if you ask them will tell you that some of the best times they have were in basic training.
Posts: 562 | Location: Fort Carson | Registered: 25 April 2008
Just an added caveat...Alot of the guys in the chow hall counting heads; here on the fob are infantry guys that were PULLED off the line for a few weeks or months. Not because they were pu$$ies, but because someone realized that they have seen a tad bit too much, and simply needed a break. I was talking to one and he is more stressed out about worrying if his guys are gonna all make it back from that next "ride into town". Just food for thought.
Posts: 562 | Location: Fort Carson | Registered: 25 April 2008
I went to Sandhill July 17th 2010, and didn't leave until July 31st 2011. I saw four companies of recruits come and go, about 65 chaptered. D 1-50. For over a year I lived in the BCT enviroment, late in September of 2010, I broke my leg, and fractured the hell out the other... Away from my new wife for a year waiting for a RTD. It was the most depressing year of my life. Everyday I woke up wishing I hadn't, with my morale in the negatives, I pushed on, only motivated by my refusal to quit, all my DS's joked that I was too stupid to quit.
My SDS was an SFC Psy-Ops. Rumored to be the worst, most degrading in Benning. We heard stories of companies being allowed to goto the PX and get candy and sodas for completling 'Red Phase'. @seven, no Nutrigrain or milk here, try 50% Fireguard, full battle rattle with 30 minute intervals. Not saying this is anything like the 70's, I'm sure you all have comparatively horrific stories. Just stating that some companies still do it the right way.
With my RASP contract cancelled due to the 2011 Cadet influx to BAT, as well as them being knocked down to one C-130. (Was awarded me, not contractual). I wanted so badly to quit, but love for my adopted country drove me on.
I'm not trying to talk myself up, by any means. I'm merely trying to show you that there's even worse to what you expirienced. That there are people around here that went through 20x what even I did. And even though I was there for 4x longer than I was supposed to, I wouldn't change a thing. I wish my SDS knew how much I appreciate his hatred, as it drove me to strive for more. I did it for me, but also, in spite of him. And he knew this.
IF you do manage to make it back, just know that that the Diploma itself makes it all worth it.
When I reclassed to 11b I went through 4 weeks of basic again and the 11b portion of OSUT with the same cycle.
I can tell you, leonardwood 2008 was harder, the only thing that was more 'difficult' was the fact that there were no females around, so the language and degrading acts were more colorful and plentiful at Sand Hill. Oh and using the woodline, that's awesome, at Ft Leonardwood forget about anything like that, gotta love bunch of guys waving their winkies around everywhere you look, lol
11b OSUT at Ft Benning was fun. It sucked to go back through half of basic, but other then that, was fun to go back through as a slightly more seasoned Soldier to see it again.
Posts: 405 | Location: Europe | Registered: 21 February 2011