Just a question for NCOs that are doing recruiting right now. I am a SGT with 5 years in have not been deployed yet even though I almost been deployed about 5 times starting since AIT, just came back from Korea, married, no children but planning for the first one. My question is should I volunteer for Recruiting, is that a good move right now for my career (plan to do 20 years) or should I deploy and then volunteer or dont ever volunteer for it? Thanks.
Lead by Example!!!
Posts: 1234 | Location: Somewhere in the US | Registered: 13 September 2007
I've never been recruiting but I have a lot of friends who have. Some have said they would rather do 3 years in Iraq than 3 years of recruiting. I have had others that say it wasn't that bad as long as you showed up and worked like you were supposed to. Recruiting is a fast track to SFC though. Just remember that you will have to maintain proficiency on your own.
"War is an act of force, and to the application of that force there is no limit. Each of the advisaries forces the hand of the other, and in a recipricol action results in which there can be no limit..." Carl von Clausewitz, on war, 1833
Posts: 287 | Location: Fort Riley, KS | Registered: 20 May 2004
Originally posted by SSGGunbunny: Recruiter duty isn't the only special duty you can volunteer for there is also Drill Sergeant...
Yeah I been told I would make a good Drill Sergeant. Have you been to Drill Sergeant School? How is it? Like doing basic again? I already went to the Recruiting school once but I didnt have my citizenship at that time so I got sent back around week 2 or 3...I was a SPC trying to do the CPL Recruiting.
Lead by Example!!!
Posts: 1234 | Location: Somewhere in the US | Registered: 13 September 2007
hey man, I just got DA selected. 20/20 hindsight I should have volunteered though becuase if you volunteer you get station of choice. If you are DA select you dont get that option
Posts: 5 | Location: Fort Bragg | Registered: 03 October 2007
Originally posted by SGT CLEV: hey man, I just got DA selected. 20/20 hindsight I should have volunteered though becuase if you volunteer you get station of choice. If you are DA select you dont get that option
Oh I know when I went to the school there were a lot of NCOs trying to get certain assignments, they were DA selected.
Lead by Example!!!
Posts: 1234 | Location: Somewhere in the US | Registered: 13 September 2007
I'm a recruiter now and honestly it is what u make of it. Just be prepared to not have any type of support channel and to work long hours (no matter what they say about achieving your missiona and having time off)
First off I am a 79R. I was selected on that fast track thing back in 04. I didn't want to do this job. I let that fact be known to my chain of command and throughout the station commanders course. You are going to work long hours. I don't care if you are putting in your people or not. Example-You are not making mission, you are going to you suck training. If you are making mission you will be working long hours, riding to meps, the test sites doing interviews with kids, parents, all their influencers etc. There is no inbetween on this job. The leadership out here has not changed at all. You guys are out here putting in people during a time of war. When you don't put no one in the leadership out here gets all in a tizzy. You must not be making enough phone calls, or have enough people in your funnel or whatever. Everyone just sits there and ignores the 800lb gorilla in the room. NO ONE wants to admit that this extended war is hurting recruiting efforts. This job is thankless. The leadership out here sends out all these little feel good emails about how they appreciate the hours we put in and all that mess. In my opinion they really don't. Show me some appreciation come down to the station and log in some phone calls and tell my recruiters that they can go home and enjoy some time. Quit telling me that my station is my station run it the way I like. But when the leaders above me come down they don't like what they see and I get the third degree. If my station is making mission and I am sending people home at 1700 then who cares. But apparently there is some unwritten rule in USAREC that says everyone has to work until 2200 hours. Then they have to come to work on Saturday. I felt that when I was letting my people off I got alot more quality work. When it was found out I was shafted. My best advice to anyone out there thinking about this job. Don't do it stay where you are. I would rather be in Iraq anyday of the week than do this crap another day.
Originally posted by DoubleDuece: I've never been recruiting but I have a lot of friends who have. Some have said they would rather do 3 years in Iraq than 3 years of recruiting. I have had others that say it wasn't that bad as long as you showed up and worked like you were supposed to. Recruiting is a fast track to SFC though. Just remember that you will have to maintain proficiency on your own.
Could you please show me where my being a recruiter will somehow fast track me to E-7 in the Infantry? I came out here as a freshly pinned e-6 with 3 months rated time as a section leader. In order for me to even get looked at for seven I was told by my branch that I need at a minimum 2 years Squad Leader time in a line unit, and at least one year of that deployed. So how is this fast tracking me to 7? In my opinion its just holding me back.
NE DESIT VIRTUS
Posts: 5 | Location: FL | Registered: 17 December 2007
E7 is promoted by DA. They like to see that you have done a Special Duty assignment such as recruiting or drill.
"War is an act of force, and to the application of that force there is no limit. Each of the advisaries forces the hand of the other, and in a recipricol action results in which there can be no limit..." Carl von Clausewitz, on war, 1833
Posts: 287 | Location: Fort Riley, KS | Registered: 20 May 2004
Here is what I think. You are told that recruiting duty is a fast track to E-7 so you will actually take it in the rump without complaining as much. I have seen people who had glowing NCOERS from recruiting duty their production was through the roof and guess what they are still an E-6. On the other hand I have seen some NCO's with reports from recruiting duty and I was like WTF? They get picked up for 7. So who knows. Personally I just think it's an urban legend to get you to go quietly.
I AM A DETAILED RECRUITER NOW. I HAVE BEEN THRU ONE DIVORCE BECAUSE OF THIS ASSIGNMENT.I HAVE LESS THAN A YEAR LEFT AND IF YOU VALUE YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR WIFE,DONT DO IT!79R'S ONLY CARE ABOUT NUMBERS,NOT SOLDIERS!MOST OF THEM HAVE NEVER EVEN LED SOLDIERS.I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND HOW CUT THROAT THIS ASSIGNMENT IS.I ALSO PLAN ON STAYING IN FOR 20 AND I LOVE THE ARMY. BUT UAREC IS NOT THE ARMY!!!!!!!!!!!