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I am aware that the regulation states:

APFT. In accordance with AR 350-1, the APFT will be administered for record at least twice a year.


July 01, 2014 was my last APFT and unfortunately I have been battling some medical issues which has lead me to be both on permanent no run profiles and temporary profiles back to back. My question is, come July 01, 2015, it will be one year that I have not taken my APFT due to medical issues. I know that once you hit that year mark, things automatically happen like you may lose your promotional status or your reenlistment status may automatically change. In my case, where it has all been due to medical reasons, what will happen to me come next month?
 
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I think you need to worry about your medical issues first. Can you do push-ups and sit-ups? Are you looking at a MEB?

What is your rank and ETS date?
 
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I think you need to worry about your medical issues first. Can you do push-ups and sit-ups? Are you looking at a MEB?

What is your rank and ETS date?


DEROS (May 2016) ETS (Feb 2017)

Sir, I have been worrying about my medical issues for over two years now. Unfortunately my condition is not getting better and to add to the issues, I recently had to have back surgery which now disables me from even doing push up or sit-ups at the moment. I'm a 74D20 who keeps being told to so simply concentrate on my recuperation but I am still curious to know, is there some sort of trigger effect that will take place come 01Jul15 which will be my one year mark since I take a record APFT? I would want to think that the Army is going to consider my medical profiles and condition and NOT simply flag, chapter, or degrade me due to my medical conditions. I'm currently not in the MEB process but have to ask about that as well. Will my non-apft year mark automatically trigger an MEB? Will it trigger a chapter even though it's the specialist doctors who have been placing me on profiles back to back?


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I will discuss this with your chain of command and its all listed here

http://www.apd.army.mil/jw2/xm...8_19/main.asp#p01-18

(d) Lack of a qualifying Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT) (not applicable to Soldiers affected by paras 1-18 , 1-19 , 1-20 , and 1-22 ).

1-18. Soldiers categorized as missing

a. For the purpose of this paragraph, a Soldier who is declared missing is categorized as beleaguered, besieged, captured, detained, interned, missing or missing in action. Excluded are personnel who are in an AWOL, deserter, or dropped from rolls status.

b. The promotion authority for promoting Soldiers declared missing is CG (HRC, CDRs RSC, and/or Army Reserve GOCOMs), or DARNG (further delegated to the State Adjutant General (SAG)). The CG, HRC maintains oversight responsibility for all Soldiers determined to meet the criteria of paragraph a .

c. The TIS and TIG requirements will not be waived to determine eligibility for promotion or promotion selection when Soldiers are officially declared missing. Time absent will be included in any service computation used to determine eligibility. In the event it is later determined that a Soldier died prior to an effective date of promotion, the promotion will not be revoked.

(1) Once declared missing for a period of at least 60 days, Soldiers (PV1 through SGT) will be promoted through the rank of SSG upon attaining full eligibility for each rank (without waiver). The promotion authority may, as an exception to policy, authorize accelerated promotion based on chain of command input provided the Soldier was otherwise eligible.

(2) Once declared missing, Soldiers (SSG through first sergeant (1SG)/MSG) who meet established eligibility criteria for consideration by a promotion board will be included in the zone of eligibility for that board for RA and USAR Soldiers. ARNG Soldiers will continue to compete for promotion as though they were present and will be eligible for selection against valid vacancies. If not selected, all Soldiers remain eligible for continued consideration until they no longer meet the eligibility criteria.

1-19. Promotion of terminally ill Soldiers

a. Soldiers on a current recommended list to SGT or SSG and Soldiers eligible for promotion up to SPC (recommended by their local CDR) will be promoted to the recommended rank by the local medical facility CDR (RA and USAR), SAG (ARNG), or DARNG for Title 10 ARNG AGR.

b. Soldiers in the ranks of SSG, SFC, or MSG who have been selected for promotion by a promotion selection board will be promoted by HRC or an RSC and/or USAR GOCOM. Promotion authority will issue orders for ARNG Soldiers.

c. The following conditions must be met:

(1) Hospitalization is caused by disease or injury received in the line of duty.

(2) Terminal illness is verified by the medical facility CDR. Estimated life expectancy must be 12 months or less.

d. The medical facility CDR will send the following information to Commander, U.S. Army Human Resources Command (AHRC-PDV-PE), 1600 Spearhead Division Avenue, Fort Knox, KY 40122-5407, the SAG headquarters for ARNG, or RSC and/or USAR GOCOM or DARNG for Soldiers being promoted to SFC, MSG, and SGM:

(1) Name and social security number (SSN).

(2) Date of the list that contains the name of the Soldier hospitalized.

(3) Date hospitalized.

(4) Life expectancy (estimated to be less than 12 months).

(5) Line of duty determination.

e. Other provisions of this regulation are waived to permit these promotions except for Soldiers serving under a Flag who are nonpromotable, per paragraph 1-10 .

f. Notification must be made prior to Soldier's death.

1-20. Promotion of Soldiers in the Disability Evaluation System

a. Soldiers in the Disability Evaluation System (DES) process who are pending a medical fitness determination (referral to a medical evaluation board under AR 40-400 , or physical evaluation board under AR 635-40 ) remain otherwise eligible for promotion consideration, selection, and pin-on. The issuance of a permanent profile of "3" or "4" alone will not be used as the sole basis for determining PMOS disqualification. No RC Soldier who is in the DES process will lose his or her promotable status solely because a promotion list expires prior to a vacancy for promotion becoming available.

b. Soldiers conditionally promoted to SGM but are unable to meet the condition of their promotion as a result in a finding of unfit by the DES process or State surgeon for Title 32 ARNG personnel per AR 40-501 will not be subject to administrative reduction (provided otherwise qualified to retain promotable status in accordance with this regulation.

c. While in the DES, Soldiers will not be required to maintain their APFT or weapons qualification for the purpose of promotion eligibility or pin-on. For semi-centralized promotion consideration, selection, and pin-on, Soldiers within the DES who are unable to perform an APFT or qualify with a weapon will use their last score until they are medically cleared to take the APFT or qualify with a weapon. Soldiers within the DES due to combat-related operations who failed to qualify with a weapon or failed their last APFT will be granted the minimum qualifying score.

d. While in the DES, Soldiers are not required to meet prescribed service remaining requirements for promotion as provided for in this regulation.

e. Per the provisions of 10 USC 1372, Soldiers on a promotion list who are retired for physical disability (10 USC 1201 or 1204) or who are placed on the temporary disability retired list (TDRL) (10 USC 1202 or 1205) at the time of retirement for disability will be retired for disability at the promotion list grade. The Soldier will be promoted effective the day before placement on the retired list or TDRL regardless of cutoff scores, sequence numbers, or position availability. In all cases, the Soldier must otherwise be fully eligible for promotion in accordance with paragraph 1-10 . Forward a copy of RA promotion/retirement orders 10 days prior to the effective date of promotion to the following email address, usarmy.knox.hrc.mbx.tagd-jr-enlisted-promotions@mail.mil for inclusion into the total Army personnel data base (TAPDB).

f. Per the provisions of 10 USC 1212, Soldiers who are on a promotion list at the time of separation for disability with entitlement to disability severance pay will be paid such compensation at the promotion list grade. Further, the Soldier will be promoted effective on the Soldier's separation date. For RC Soldiers, such promotions will occur without regard to vacancy. Forward a copy of RA promotion/separation orders 10 days prior to the effective date of promotion to the following email address, usarmy.knox.hrc.mbx.tagd-jr-enlisted-promotions@mail.mil for inclusion into TAPDB.

g. The guidance at paragraphs 1-20 e and f also pertains to all Soldiers who have reached the TIS requirements for the next level of automatic promotion (PV2 to SPC).

h. Soldiers determined unfit by the DES but approved for continuation on active duty or continuation on active reserve under the provisions of AR 635-40 , may be recommended for promotion consideration, selection, and pin-on provided they are otherwise qualified and meet established eligibility criteria.

i. Soldiers pending medical retention decision or medical separation will not be removed from a promotion list until promoted or until after being determined fit for duty and afforded 180 days to retain promotion eligibility, provided they are otherwise qualified and eligible with this regulation.

1-21. Soldiers returning for duty from the temporary disability retired list

Soldiers returning to active or Reserve duty from the TDRL are subject to a grade determination as follows (applies only to Soldiers who return to active or Reserve duty on or before the date specified on the orders terminating TDRL status):

a. Temporary disability retired list Soldiers promoted consistent with 10 USC 1372. For Soldiers previously promoted in conjunction with placement on the TDRL, a determination will be made as to whether the Soldier would have been promoted had the Soldier not been placed on the TDRL.

(1) When a determination is made that promotion would have otherwise been attained during the period a Soldier resided on the TDRL, the Soldier's DOR will be adjusted to reflect the date the Soldier should have been promoted, had they not been placed on the TDRL. This will not result in a change to the effective date of promotion.

(2) When a determination is made that promotion would not have otherwise been attained, the Soldier will be reduced to the former rank and re-integrated onto the appropriate recommended list with de facto status granted. The Soldier's DOR will revert back to the original DOR.

(3) Soldiers returning to duty in ranks PV1 through PFC who meet the TIG and service requirements will be promoted as soon as possible to the highest rank otherwise eligible, but no later than 30 days after return to active or Reserve duty. In these cases, the effective date and DOR will be the date the Soldier returns to active or Reserve duty from the TDRL.

(4) The following will be used to establish grade determination for Soldiers previously promoted in conjunction with placement on the TDRL:

(a) Regular Army and U.S. Army Reserve (Active Guard Reserve).

(1) For promotion to SGT and/or SSG, a review of past promotion point cutoff scores will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(2) For promotion to SFC and above, a review of the published sequence numbers will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(3) Determination will be accomplished by CG, HRC (AHRC-PDV-PE) for all active duty and for all USAR (AGR) Soldiers.

(b) U.S. Army Reserve individual mobilization augmentee and Individual Ready Reserve.

(1) For promotion to SGT and/or SSG, a review of the Soldier's promotion eligibility criteria will be used to determine if the Soldier remains fully qualified and would have otherwise been promoted.

(2) For promotion to SFC and above, a review of the Soldier's promotion eligibility criteria and IMA Program vacancies (when required) will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(3) Determination will be accomplished by CG, HRC (AHRC-PDV-PE) for all IMA and IRR Soldiers.

(c) U.S. Army Reserve troop program unit.

(1) For promotion to SGT and/or SSG, a review of past promotion point scores and regional vacancies will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(2) For promotion to SFC and above, a review of the published sequence numbers and regional vacancies will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(3) Determination will be accomplished by the appropriate RSC CG, for all USAR TPU Soldiers.

(d) Army National Guard and/or Army National Guard of the United States.

(1) For promotion to SGT and/or SSG, a review of past promotion point selection objectives and State vacancies will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(2) For promotion to SFC and above, a review of the published sequence numbers and State vacancies will be used to determine if the Soldier would have otherwise been promoted.

(3) Determination will be accomplished by the respective SAG for ARNG or CNGB for ARNGUS.
 
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