I heard that wonderful saying "according to army regulation", from an NCO, that when you get 24hrs quarters it is from one duty day to the next duty day, but if you get quarters at 1000hrs and it's 24 hrs do you report to first formation or do you report at 1000 the next duty day, please help me understand so i'm not going around with the wrong frame of mind? I looked in AR 600-6 and couln't find my answer maybe you can...Thanks in advance
I was always told that a 24 hours quarters slip is only good until first formation the next day, no matter what time they were issued... but 2 weeks ago I was given 72 hour quarters at 1100 and it specifically mentioned that I was to report back to work at 1100 3 days later. In theory, however, it is supposed to mean a FULL 24 hours...not that I've ever seen that enforced.
It is just until the next duty day 1st formation unless anotated by the doctor signing the slip, ask and sometimes the doctor will anotate it the way he actually means that way it is not left to us NCOs to decide, but rather the medical professional
Originally posted by armylife1124: It is just until the next duty day 1st formation unless anotated by the doctor signing the slip, ask and sometimes the doctor will anotate it the way he actually means that way it is not left to us NCOs to decide, but rather the medical professional
Can you please provide a regulation, policy, etc stating that is until next formation? To my understanding and common sense also it would mean 24 hours, so if you got it at 1100hrs you come back to work 24 hours from then, b/c i fyou come in for PT formation, then its not really 24 hours.
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ok in response to my own post....and to help the US NCO's out you will not find a regulation that states that the soldier is to report to the next formation, ie pt formation. We use that phrase very loosely without knowing really what we are saying. Tradition is what we are speaking of here "you can add to but not take away from" AR 600-6 para 4b only says that quarters when given to the patientis returned to their unit or home for medically directed self-treatment and is not to perform military duty until a medical officer indicates they can. It states that the medical officer should indicate the time of the quarters, ie 24hrs, 0730, 17 May until 0730, May 18; however it does not state anything about if the slip just says "quarters 24 hrs"....so now how do we go from here......?
Your profile is only a recommendation to the Commander. The medical treatment provider does not have command authority above you. When you leave your facility, turn in your profile and ask your First Sergeant or Platoon Sergeant when he wants you back to work!!!!! Now quit trying to get out of work and earn a paycheck.
Tanker91, I don't know if you noticed when you provided your unecessary and likely incorrect post that you were replying to something that was last posted in January 2008. This is your very first post on this site and all you could do is find a really old post and reply to it with a nasty remark?
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Originally posted by CCMSG: Tanker91, I don't know if you noticed when you provided your unecessary and likely incorrect post that you were replying to something that was last posted in January 2008. This is your very first post on this site and all you could do is find a really old post and reply to it with a nasty remark?
Continuously positive towards other people. And you aren't really the one to be talking to people about nasty remarks.
If I'm not mistaken a commander can turn down a profile. He does not have to honor it, it might not be beneficial to his career if that soldier gets hurt further though.
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Originally posted by armytech: ok in response to my own post....and to help the US NCO's out you will not find a regulation that states that the soldier is to report to the next formation, ie pt formation. We use that phrase very loosely without knowing really what we are saying. Tradition is what we are speaking of here "you can add to but not take away from" AR 600-6 para 4b only says that quarters when given to the patientis returned to their unit or home for medically directed self-treatment and is not to perform military duty until a medical officer indicates they can. It states that the medical officer should indicate the time of the quarters, ie 24hrs, 0730, 17 May until 0730, May 18; however it does not state anything about if the slip just says "quarters 24 hrs"....so now how do we go from here......?
It's 24hrs, period. If quarters are given to the Soldier at 0700hrs, the Soldier is on quarters until 0700hrs. The commander cannot turn down a quarters slip or profile, it is medical direction from an Army medical officer, the only person that can revise or negate the quarters and/or profile is a more senior medical officer. Any Commander that attempts to issue an order contrary to that of the medical officer has effectly aided in the destruction of government property, big no, no. Unless your commander is an M.D., and happens to out rank the doctor who issued the quarters slip, there's nothing he can do but wait until the medical direction has expired.
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