Hi all i am going to try to make this short. Here is the issue my fiancee' is in the Army and so am I. He is at Fort Hood just arriving there since the beginning of Oct I am at Fort Sam and I am 38 weeks pregnant anyways since he got to Fort Hood the beggining of Oct given he was given 10 days of PTDY which would put him being back around Oct 10 he has been transferred to 5 diffrent companys informing all that he has a baby on the way soon and would like to take a couple days of leave but everytime, they have seemed to tell him to put his da 31 in he is getting transferred to another company/unit so it seems impossible for him to get it approved. He just arrived in his current company on Fri and is already been told today Tuesday after putting his stuff in the connex for an upcoming deployment that he is going yet again to another company. My question here is who can he go and talk to as far as getting assigned to a unit and staying with them they have been giving him the run around. They also made him load his stuff in a connex due to a very soon upcoming deployment and now they are telling him he may not be staying with the unit. He is by no means trying to get out of deploying he actually wants to go so my other question would be if there is something he can do as far as deploying after the baby is born which I am due next Fri and if he takes leave when he gets back from leave it will give him only 5 days to have his HHG picked up and there he would go. He is really frustrated with this because he just wants to be able to work and take some leave for when the baby comes since the next time he will see him he will be a yr old. But they keep transferring him. My other question is if he hasnt deplyoed since 04 and now they trying to send him again and he hasnt had any deployment training since 04 does he not have to do any training prior to leaving? They are planning to depoly him with no training since his last trip downrange. I am sorry I am asking alot of questions but I am just concerned and confused that the Army would do this.
Why do they keep moving him? Within the same BN? BDE? I personally would see if I could talk to the CSM of either the BN (if he is getting moved around the BN) or the BDE (open door policy?) Again this is just me, but first I would like to know why they keep moving me before I go that high up, you know?
His situation is very weird and things just did not line up for him, he PCS, took PTDY (house hunting? what rank is he that he was given 10 days of PTDY?), keep getting moved, wants to take leave (I know, who wouldnt to see your baby's birth), and upcoming deployment, WOW!!!
Good luck to you and him and congrats to both.
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Well we both dont know why he keeps getting moved around besides that his mos is overstrengthed in those company's he has tried asking his first line leader but they keep telling him the same thing which is they will get back to him. I suggested to him to speaking with the 1SG or CO but he has yet to meet them and or be able to talk to them when he asked the leader of the shop most current one they just told him to sit tight and never happend. He is a SGT E5 but has custody of his other son so he was given PTDY. He has showed me all the diffrent 4187s that have been given to him transferring from 2 diffrent BDEs to being attached and in between battalions. Its not that he is ate up or anything besides he hasnt had a chance to work at all since arriving there I am thinking maybe they just dont have any slots for him in the BDE itself. But it just does not sit right with me and would like to help him by atleast suggesting who to speak with if it will help.
That's a very odd situation. If the time comes and he hasn't had a chance to put in leave (via DA 31), send a red cross message to his current unit at the time stating that his "presence is required for the health and wellbeing of both the mother and the baby". Even if it is only true in a sense that the mental wellbeing of mother and baby would be stabilized by his presence, it should get the job done.
I'm normally not an advocate of using the system, but if you're due next Friday and whatever unit he ends up in requires a DA 31 to be turned in 10-15 days prior (or more, depending on the unit), that may be the only way to get him to you.
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Originally posted by SSG Prophet: That's a very odd situation. If the time comes and he hasn't had a chance to put in leave (via DA 31), send a red cross message to his current unit at the time stating that his "presence is required for the health and wellbeing of both the mother and the baby". Even if it is only true in a sense that the mental wellbeing of mother and baby would be stabilized by his presence, it should get the job done.
I'm normally not an advocate of using the system, but if you're due next Friday and whatever unit he ends up in requires a DA 31 to be turned in 10-15 days prior (or more, depending on the unit), that may be the only way to get him to you.
I agree with SSG Prophet on the red cross message, and I believe the situation is legitimate. Honestly, it sounds like poor leadership because nobody wants to take responsibility of him and deal with his issue.
As far as your second question, units usually do training CONUS ie JRTC, NTC etc as well as in kuwait. Hope this helps.
Thanks to the responses. I think I am going to go with a red cross message because they are still giving him the run around he was told yesterday again he was going to another unit and it turned out it he wasnt at the end of the day. So I guess whatever unit he is in at the time of the labor that is who the red cross message has to go to. I just hope it works out.
Originally posted by SSG Prophet: That's a very odd situation. If the time comes and he hasn't had a chance to put in leave (via DA 31), send a red cross message to his current unit at the time stating that his "presence is required for the health and wellbeing of both the mother and the baby". Even if it is only true in a sense that the mental wellbeing of mother and baby would be stabilized by his presence, it should get the job done.
Just know that the Red Cross has your Dr sign off on the message not you. The Dr may go along with this and they may not. I wouldn't think it would be a problem if he is still stateside though.
However, if you initiate the message, the Doctor refuses to sign, and there end up being complications that result in something bad (knock on wood), the doctor (in the civilian world at least) could be sued for malpractice. Generally as a rule Doctors tend to sign off on such simple matters as wanting or needing a spouse nearby for labor and delivery.
Are you birthing in an Army hospital? A lot of Army hospitals don't have maternity wards. Civilian doctors tend as a whole to be more lenient towards that kind of stuff.
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