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Picture of Soldier60
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I've seen two basic methods when it comes to the 2166-8-1 NCOER Counseling and Support Form.

1. Complete the form and counsel the NCO. Place the form in the counseling packet and continue to pencil stuff in throughout the Qtr. Then counsel for the 2nd Qtr using the same form.

2. Complete the form and counsel the NCO. Then create a completely new 2166-8-1 for the following Qtr.

I prefer #2. When leaders add things to the counseling form after the counseling takes place it gives the impression that the information on the form has been already discussed with the NCO.

Does anyone do things differently?
 
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I've always done #1. You give them your initial counseling, filling in the "counseling" date. Then with the bullets on the back side, you add as the months go by. Say he was a Range Safety officer over X amount with X scoring Expert and zero accidents, also had 2 Soldiers go and win the SOM board, and this NCO scored over 90 in each event.
I would annotate that on the -1 in pencil. Then when I counsel him/her quarterly, I would go back and talk about all the good/bad things they have done, then look at other goals we need to strive for in getting a well rounded NCOER.
I don't think doing #2 is even reasonable. First thing I think of is the NCOs time on top of daily duties to continue trying to complete an almost full NCOER every 3 months when the rated NCO may have not completed anything, or there was no opportunity within the unit. So 2 problems I see with #2, Rating NCO not having the time needed to complete an almost full NCOER every 3 months and 2, the chance that the rated NCO did not have the opportunities to complete goals or the unit may have been on Leave and reset where there was very little ways to complete those goals.
Again, these are only things I see and how I conduct business. Every NCO has his/her own way. Hope this helped.


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Originally posted by Soldier60:

2. Complete the form and counsel the NCO. Then create a completely new 2166-8-1 for the following Qtr.


Whuuuu???

The 2166-8-1 is not a 4856. Shouldn't be used like one... I don't like that, agree with svt3565


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I didn't realize there were people out there who don't do the -1 in pencil and just update it every quarter.

/shrug
 
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