13M - MLRS/HIMARS

Anyone know any info for this MOS? I am a prior service E5, am returning from a medical hold and want to get into this as my MOS. I am hoping to finish quick as this MOS is only 4 weeks and get downrange as fast as possible.

My main question is wondering if 13M really get to do their job when deployed? What does an NCO in this MOS do? I just don't want to be that guy doing details, as I have deployed a couple times and have seen other stuck on these duties (luckily I was a medic and did not have to do this).

Also, any advice on good duty stations? I hear some things about Bragg, although when I was with the 82nd I loved it. I hear there deployments are 6 on 1yr off, which is great.

Thanks for the help ahead of time.
Josh
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Sorry I didn't see this.

I was a 13M from 2001-2004. I really don't see an overall purpose for this MOS except at the beginning of conflicts. Since all 13M are qualified to drive the HEMTT then you can figure out what they do in Iraq.

A lot of the guys I used to work with were forced to reclass into radar after I left my unit because of the down-sizing of the MOS.

I suppose HIMARS could be effective in Afghanistan but MLRS will never set foot there. Too mountainous. And in Iraq, one of those rockets is too unspecific to really be used, IMO (although someone can chime in differently). The public is not interested in collateral damage.

I was in Iraq during OIF1 (pictures on my MySpace) and basically 2-4 FA fired a few rockets but 99% of our BDE ended up using HEMTTs to empty Saddam's palaces and the surrounding areas of munitions while getting shot at. It was getting to the point where our BDE commander tried to get us paid for EOD pay since the EOD folks never showed up (they were too short staffed) and we always ended up doing their work for them on site.

This is not an MOS I would choose to make a career out of. What are you going to do in the civilian world with that qualification? You aren't going to see any more combat than anyone else in the Army, and you have no real skills. You are going to get out and have your typical military skills that translate into being some sort of security guard or police officer, and you could go to Ft. Sill as a civilian and be a mechanic, but it's not like some private company is going to hire you to drive a SPLL.
Exactly what I was looking for 35M3L00PF. Honestly, I just want an MOS with a purpose when deployed.
I also want to be back on the front lines like I was as an Infantry Medic, but don't want to do medicine again. Loved it when I was deployed, but have started getting sour over it due to an issue I had.

35M3L00PF, you have a PM from me about 35M.
I responded to your PM.

As for the being on the front lines, why not just pick something like 11B or 13F or something?

I'm all for those MOS when you first start out, kinda like the Marines (you can't just become a CI agent in the Marines)...but seriously, they are worthless in the civilian world.

I know everyone loves their airborne status and to be able to say they are armor/infantry/ranger blah blah but at the end of the day they have no use aside from your typical security positions in the civilian world.

I think everyone should "grow up" in some combat arms MOS and then transition to intel or computers or whatever.

Just my suggestion for you. You dedicate a lot of time to Uncle Sam, you should have something to show for it skill wise when you get out. Just my opinion though, which doesn't really matter.

I actually lost a lot of friends and had NCOs that refused to talk to me because I left arty and joined intel.

I used to tell them, what on Earth will I do when I get out besides the basic jobs that all military service help with (like being a cop or a marshal or something)? I could be this guy, and that's about it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZWhQDEMH4Y
I can tell you 35M has a purpose when deployed. I'm not saying we never pull gate guard but if you are anything better than a complete idiot and dirtbag you are doing your job in some fashion.

I know some 35Ms that were MWR NCOs and stuff but that's because they were so effing retarded the commander was afraid to let them out of the gate.
I am currently in an MLRS unit, and we are currently deployed to Iraq and we are shooting Guided MLRS munitions. However, we are the only unit that does this in Iraq. We have been here for 3 years, and will be here for another 2. We rotate the personnel out of country, and we come right back a year later.

The only other MLRS/HIMARS unit that does this is the unit deployed to Afghanistan. They are in the same boat. So out of the 19 units in the Army, only 2 of them are really doing there combat mission!
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Originally posted by Top_Dog:
I am currently in an MLRS unit, and we are currently deployed to Iraq and we are shooting Guided MLRS munitions. However, we are the only unit that does this in Iraq. We have been here for 3 years, and will be here for another 2. We rotate the personnel out of country, and we come right back a year later.

The only other MLRS/HIMARS unit that does this is the unit deployed to Afghanistan. They are in the same boat. So out of the 19 units in the Army, only 2 of them are really doing there combat mission!



I don't mean to be rude Top_Dog, but that information you put out is EXTREMELY SENSITIVE and is a major opsec violation. That "unit" is not just your run of the mill Rocket unit.
Well let me tell you 11BIN3ID how it is an OPSEC violation. When someone who is bitching and crying about being deployed they don't think about what they post on F#%*ING bullshit discussion boards about when and where units deploy into Theater and for how long. For some that think that it is COMMON knowledge that the newspapers tell things like what units are deployed, others that would like to harm our brothers in theater look for people like that and try to get more info out of them by agreeing with them and maybe even try to relate with them by researching some bullshit they found online LIKE A DISCUSSION BOARD! Next thing you know bad things could happen. OPSEC is something that all of us as soldiers need to practice more often, and inform others about its effects. If you need to know more try reasearching the Lessons Learned website.
I was a 94P(HIMARS Repair) before I reclassed and it's interesting to know how the machine works and also going to an FTX and seeing live fire. THAT'S IT! It's very hard to get promoted in this section. Most poeple don't make it past E-6. Also, with the downsizing of the MLRS units and the upbringing of HIMARS, there's very little assignment options....

Ft. Lewis
Ft. Bragg
Ft. Sill
Korea
Ft. Hood

Can't go to Germany anymore and there's really nothing on the civilian side that relates except Lockheed Martin.
Its opsec because the unit he is talking about is involved in a very "special" mission. And isn't your typical "theater asset." I was there. And the army times did not release this units deployment. Let me put it this way, we don't wear patches and and we don't answer to anybody that does.
jesus.....I'm not saying that every mlrs/himars unit is Jack Bauer or James Bond. But there is one certain unit that does different stuff. And for 11BIN3ID, I'm sure you had plain old MLRS at your base in IRAQ. I'm not even talking about MLRS OR IRAQ. So you are way off base.
You really are the epitome of an infantry: slow. I know exactly what a HIMARS is smart ass. Do I need to explain to you what METT-TC or how to zero your M68 optic because you seem to be trying to tell me what my job is. I know that the XM148 and M270(A1) are both rocket systems. I was in the unit that fielded HIMARS. I'm not even sure what those last 3 post where supposed to mean.
All of this bullshit over a little OPSEC. Hey 11B let your brother know that his HIMARS instructor that is still there at Fort Lewis fielding his unit whats up. You know that the OPSEC problem that we are seeing is you never know who exactly you are talking to on these forums. Anybody can register on this board and for anybody who thinks that certain people could not or are not tracking these discussions to try and fish out information for whatever reason is very wrong. How do you think terrorist cells operate, they are very sophisticated, smart, patient, and deadly. I a not saying that every discussion board is being tracked by Al-Qaeda. But we as soldiers need to be aware of our surroundings and not start telling every little detail about what we do or where we do it at.
We all know that the Army Times puts out these things but you need to understand that reading it in the newspaper is one thing but someone who is trying to gather intel uses more than just newspapers. Just be cautious about what you talk about. It is very easy to manipulate someone when you know what your doing.
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Originally posted by 35M3LN7PF:
One thing ill say is the army times is not published by the army so something published there is no more acceptable or official than geraldo drawing in the sand.


Bad example. Wink He was definitely not one of our finest guardians of OPSEC...
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Originally posted by 11BIN3ID:
then wtf are you talking about guy? you said yall dont wear patches and dont answer to anyone like its a damn secret. My brother is a 13m, ever heard of 1-94 fa, hes there... so i think you are the slow one bud.



So let me get this straight, 1-94 is a HIMARS (NOT MLRS) unit in Afghanistan? I think not.
1-94 is not in Afghan!! I just came from that unit. They were stationed in Germany but relocated to Ft. Lewis and transistioned to HIMARS. They are still setting up there, they have been there less than a year.

11B...your brother is either a liar, or you just have no clue what you're talking about. Stick to the infantry stuff.
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Originally posted by Miller SGT type:
1-94 is not in Afghan!! I just came from that unit. They were stationed in Germany but relocated to Ft. Lewis and transistioned to HIMARS. They are still setting up there, they have been there less than a year.

11B...your brother is either a liar, or you just have no clue what you're talking about. Stick to the infantry stuff.


THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Finally somebody that isn't blowing smoke.
sorry it took me so long to reply to you oh so bright people.(I was in the field..you should try it sometime..) I NEVER said 1-94 FA was in afghanistan. I know they are in wash. I said that i know about mlrs and himars, because my brother tells me about it..... Learn how to read a previous post instead of jumping to your own conclusions.. My brother isnt a liar and has been in 1-94 since the days of patrick hogan (i.e. old bn commander) And i was stationed 20 miles away from him when he was in in strassburg, because i was in baumholder, so i spent alot of time in i-o. Dont tell me what i do and dont know.
oh and one other thing... the author of that article obviously doesnt know ANYTHING about mlrs or himars, because GMLRS (M270A ) Can do anything a himars can...And MLRS can hold 12 rockets or 2 ATACMS not 16.... So next time you cite a source, make sure its a credible one high speed.
priorHIMARS, please don't make all of us 13M's look bad...That article you posted is not even close to a reliable source. A lot of that information is completely wrong. 11BIN3ID listed some of it.
Oh and also the nomenclature for the HIMARS is M142, not XM148 as you said earlier. They dropped the X a while ago because it is no longer experimental.
More proof

It was still XM148 when I left 3/27 about a year and a half ago. And I know that the HIMARS isn't a secret weapon, but its a secret if people are open to the knowledge of where it is knucklehead. And please don't try to lecture me on the capabilities of this weapon system. Once again PLEASE find me an Army Times article that states a operational HIMARS unit in Afghanistan.

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