I do work there and I am the person that you spoke with. I don't have any other civilian counterparts that would be available to answer the questions that you have reference your packet...just me. I am one of the soldiers biggest advocate in this office and I take huge exception to the fact that you are indicating that we are not interested in taking care of soldiers. I will not respond to any additional posts that you put on this forum. If you wish to call me directly and identify yourself, I will be happy to speak with you.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
There is no miss quotes with the post. You were not on the phone so you have no right to say anything unless you are the female that works there that emailed me and I called back. I specifically asked about certain fields in my packet and she didn't explain to me how the grading process works but did tell me it looked good. Accept the ncoers! So how about you go call them or better yet we get on three way so you can look like an idiot.

A man's reputation runs on facts, not fabrications. I gain nothing from lying about this post, I only repeat what was said to me.

Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH
There are a few misquotes in the statements below that need to be corrected. The proponent office does not reveal the way any packet is graded by the Board and would never tell a Soldier that they don't understand why their packet was not selected. If a Soldier inquires about why their packet was not selected you may receive advice in reference to some trends in Board packet reviews that may help you (or not) when resubmitting your packet for a future Board. The proponent office receives hundreds of reclass packets and is very familiar with the term "fast tracking" and understands that some soldiers may only have one or two NCOERs because of TIG. The memo doesn't have to be anything formal or in any kind of special format just a few lines stating that because of TIG you only have one NCOER submission vs four per the prerequisite requirement. The memo is not a requirement just a suggestion. The statement that insinuates by you submitting this memo "you should be good to go" is a little misleading to others that might be reading this blog. Following the suggestion listed above doesn't mean that your packet will automatically be accepted by a future Board it simply means that you can resubmit and your packet will be boarded the same as all other submissions.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
Unfortunately I wasn't selected for 51C this past board but I talked with the Proponent Office and they said they didn't understand why I was selected that they graded my packet outstanding. Then the woman said oh well you only submitted one NCOER. I replied to the woman, well I've only been an NCO for 19 months meaning I would only have one NCOER. Then she proceeded to ask me how it was possible I was a SSG then. It's called fast tracking! Anyways, she instructed me to write a memorandum stating that I've only been an NCO for so many months and only have one NCOER for the next board and I should be good to go. With that said, does anyone have any idea of what this memo should look like? Just a memorandum for record?
quote:
Originally posted by SFC 12:
Can anyone help. I was selected in the May Board, and the results were released on June 15th. I haven't heard back from Proponency on a school date. Does anyone else have a school date????? How long will this take? Thanks!


I'm still waiting on a school date as well. I've been bugging my career counselor about it and he says that I've got to get released from branch and then I should come up on a school date. From some of the earlier posts, I think that branch release takes longer for some soldiers depending on their career field. I am a 12B and we are currently balanced at SSG so I am assuming they are not in a huge hurry to cut me loose. I'd be lying if I said I know exactly how the process works but I would guess that the bigger the branch the longer it takes, probably due to the number of soldiers that they manage. What is your MOS?
It's too bad this guy insists on being so disrespectful to someone who has helped so many of us through the reclassification process. Regardless of what this guy says, there are lots of us that appreciate your help, TLH. Thank you.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH:
I do work there and I am the person that you spoke with. I don't have any other civilian counterparts that would be available to answer the questions that you have reference your packet...just me. I am one of the soldiers biggest advocate in this office and I take huge exception to the fact that you are indicating that we are not interested in taking care of soldiers. I will not respond to any additional posts that you put on this forum. If you wish to call me directly and identify yourself, I will be happy to speak with you.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
There is no miss quotes with the post. You were not on the phone so you have no right to say anything unless you are the female that works there that emailed me and I called back. I specifically asked about certain fields in my packet and she didn't explain to me how the grading process works but did tell me it looked good. Accept the ncoers! So how about you go call them or better yet we get on three way so you can look like an idiot.

A man's reputation runs on facts, not fabrications. I gain nothing from lying about this post, I only repeat what was said to me.

Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH
There are a few misquotes in the statements below that need to be corrected. The proponent office does not reveal the way any packet is graded by the Board and would never tell a Soldier that they don't understand why their packet was not selected. If a Soldier inquires about why their packet was not selected you may receive advice in reference to some trends in Board packet reviews that may help you (or not) when resubmitting your packet for a future Board. The proponent office receives hundreds of reclass packets and is very familiar with the term "fast tracking" and understands that some soldiers may only have one or two NCOERs because of TIG. The memo doesn't have to be anything formal or in any kind of special format just a few lines stating that because of TIG you only have one NCOER submission vs four per the prerequisite requirement. The memo is not a requirement just a suggestion. The statement that insinuates by you submitting this memo "you should be good to go" is a little misleading to others that might be reading this blog. Following the suggestion listed above doesn't mean that your packet will automatically be accepted by a future Board it simply means that you can resubmit and your packet will be boarded the same as all other submissions.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
Unfortunately I wasn't selected for 51C this past board but I talked with the Proponent Office and they said they didn't understand why I was selected that they graded my packet outstanding. Then the woman said oh well you only submitted one NCOER. I replied to the woman, well I've only been an NCO for 19 months meaning I would only have one NCOER. Then she proceeded to ask me how it was possible I was a SSG then. It's called fast tracking! Anyways, she instructed me to write a memorandum stating that I've only been an NCO for so many months and only have one NCOER for the next board and I should be good to go. With that said, does anyone have any idea of what this memo should look like? Just a memorandum for record?
quote:
Originally posted by OPsSSG:
quote:
Originally posted by SFC 12:
Can anyone help. I was selected in the May Board, and the results were released on June 15th. I haven't heard back from Proponency on a school date. Does anyone else have a school date????? How long will this take? Thanks!


I'm still waiting on a school date as well. I've been bugging my career counselor about it and he says that I've got to get released from branch and then I should come up on a school date. From some of the earlier posts, I think that branch release takes longer for some soldiers depending on their career field. I am a 12B and we are currently balanced at SSG so I am assuming they are not in a huge hurry to cut me loose. I'd be lying if I said I know exactly how the process works but I would guess that the bigger the branch the longer it takes, probably due to the number of soldiers that they manage. What is your MOS?
You are going to have to get with your Career counselor. I got my school date a week after I turned in my memo. I was selected on the last board also good luck. My school date April next year at lackland



quote:
Originally posted by SFC 12:
Can anyone help. I was selected in the May Board, and the results were released on June 15th. I haven't heard back from Proponency on a school date. Does anyone else have a school date????? How long will this take? Thanks!
Thank you for responding. My MOS is 42R (Army Band). Our branch is very small, so I was hoping I would hear back from them sooner than later. I submitted my acceptance memo the day after I received it through my career counselor. I guess I'm just being impatient. I am so excited about this new MOS, I just want to get started. Maybe I'll call my branch manager and see if he's released me yet. If anyone has any more information or any better ideas, I'm willing to listen. Thanks for the replies!
Hey cabledawg82, did you get a following assignment? Are you TDY en route? I was wondering how that worked as well. I'm currently at Fort Jackson and was wondering how they do assignments after school. Also, when you got your school date, did they email you or did you get notified by your career counselor? Thanks.
It does not go specifically to your branch manager... Retention has a system called RETAIN. the equivalent of what EMIPLO in the admin world. Those requests are submitted through RETAIN by your retention NCO, up to HRC. Once it is approved it will come back down to the retention guy and you should obtain a print out of it for your records. When you are released the QM branch will tentatively pick you up and automatically put you in the next school date. Hang on SFC 12. If followed what the acceptance memo said you are good to go. Sounds like school dates are JAN 2012 and later, so you have some time.

In the admin world once you get your 1610 for school you should be looking for your orders for the next duty station. If you are married and have your orders in your hand to your next duty station BEFORE you leave for school you have the option of TDY and return. You can choose that option during your levy brief.


quote:
Originally posted by SFC 12:
Thank you for responding. My MOS is 42R (Army Band). Our branch is very small, so I was hoping I would hear back from them sooner than later. I submitted my acceptance memo the day after I received it through my career counselor. I guess I'm just being impatient. I am so excited about this new MOS, I just want to get started. Maybe I'll call my branch manager and see if he's released me yet. If anyone has any more information or any better ideas, I'm willing to listen. Thanks for the replies!
I for one especially appreciate everything you have done for Soldiers and hold you in the highest regards. You have my firm support from me and many other Soldiers throughout the Army.



quote:
Originally posted by TLH:
I do work there and I am the person that you spoke with. I don't have any other civilian counterparts that would be available to answer the questions that you have reference your packet...just me. I am one of the soldiers biggest advocate in this office and I take huge exception to the fact that you are indicating that we are not interested in taking care of soldiers. I will not respond to any additional posts that you put on this forum. If you wish to call me directly and identify yourself, I will be happy to speak with you.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
There is no miss quotes with the post. You were not on the phone so you have no right to say anything unless you are the female that works there that emailed me and I called back. I specifically asked about certain fields in my packet and she didn't explain to me how the grading process works but did tell me it looked good. Accept the ncoers! So how about you go call them or better yet we get on three way so you can look like an idiot.

A man's reputation runs on facts, not fabrications. I gain nothing from lying about this post, I only repeat what was said to me.

Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH
There are a few misquotes in the statements below that need to be corrected. The proponent office does not reveal the way any packet is graded by the Board and would never tell a Soldier that they don't understand why their packet was not selected. If a Soldier inquires about why their packet was not selected you may receive advice in reference to some trends in Board packet reviews that may help you (or not) when resubmitting your packet for a future Board. The proponent office receives hundreds of reclass packets and is very familiar with the term "fast tracking" and understands that some soldiers may only have one or two NCOERs because of TIG. The memo doesn't have to be anything formal or in any kind of special format just a few lines stating that because of TIG you only have one NCOER submission vs four per the prerequisite requirement. The memo is not a requirement just a suggestion. The statement that insinuates by you submitting this memo "you should be good to go" is a little misleading to others that might be reading this blog. Following the suggestion listed above doesn't mean that your packet will automatically be accepted by a future Board it simply means that you can resubmit and your packet will be boarded the same as all other submissions.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
Unfortunately I wasn't selected for 51C this past board but I talked with the Proponent Office and they said they didn't understand why I was selected that they graded my packet outstanding. Then the woman said oh well you only submitted one NCOER. I replied to the woman, well I've only been an NCO for 19 months meaning I would only have one NCOER. Then she proceeded to ask me how it was possible I was a SSG then. It's called fast tracking! Anyways, she instructed me to write a memorandum stating that I've only been an NCO for so many months and only have one NCOER for the next board and I should be good to go. With that said, does anyone have any idea of what this memo should look like? Just a memorandum for record?
quote:
Originally posted by 51C:
quote:
Originally posted by ChelseaFC:
51C,

Do you know anyone over at the 409th in Germany?

I will be assigned there when im doing with MRAC.

I hear I am going to be doing staff work for a year.

Have you ever heard of a 51c going to a new unit and doing staff work instead of contracting for a year?


Yep, I know quite a few people over in the 409th, it is a good unit to be in.

As far as doing staff work, it was quite common when they were trying to fill slots, but they really try to push people into the team jobs, however it does still happen.


It still happens. I went to BN staff right after AABC. I replaced another NCO who went straight to that position right after her AABC as well. Other NCOs from my class went to BDE staff as well. Fortunately, I am now in a contracting position after almost a year of being in the staff. Hopefully, as staff slots are being filled and more NCOs are put into staff positions after 1 year of contracting experience, less and less NCOs are being put in staff right after AABC (or MRAC).
I got an email from AATARS telling me my school date.

quote:
Originally posted by SFC 12:
Hey cabledawg82, did you get a following assignment? Are you TDY en route? I was wondering how that worked as well. I'm currently at Fort Jackson and was wondering how they do assignments after school. Also, when you got your school date, did they email you or did you get notified by your career counselor? Thanks.
I guess you enjoy being called a liar and would take it. I on the other hand stick up for what I believe in and do not like being a called a liar. So if being disrespectful is what I have to do to clear my name, that is what I'll do. I never once lied nor changed the words from her. She is the one that is being disrespectful saying I stretched what she said.
quote:
Originally posted by OPsSSG:
It's too bad this guy insists on being so disrespectful to someone who has helped so many of us through the reclassification process. Regardless of what this guy says, there are lots of us that appreciate your help, TLH. Thank you.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH:
I do work there and I am the person that you spoke with. I don't have any other civilian counterparts that would be available to answer the questions that you have reference your packet...just me. I am one of the soldiers biggest advocate in this office and I take huge exception to the fact that you are indicating that we are not interested in taking care of soldiers. I will not respond to any additional posts that you put on this forum. If you wish to call me directly and identify yourself, I will be happy to speak with you.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
There is no miss quotes with the post. You were not on the phone so you have no right to say anything unless you are the female that works there that emailed me and I called back. I specifically asked about certain fields in my packet and she didn't explain to me how the grading process works but did tell me it looked good. Accept the ncoers! So how about you go call them or better yet we get on three way so you can look like an idiot.

A man's reputation runs on facts, not fabrications. I gain nothing from lying about this post, I only repeat what was said to me.

Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH
There are a few misquotes in the statements below that need to be corrected. The proponent office does not reveal the way any packet is graded by the Board and would never tell a Soldier that they don't understand why their packet was not selected. If a Soldier inquires about why their packet was not selected you may receive advice in reference to some trends in Board packet reviews that may help you (or not) when resubmitting your packet for a future Board. The proponent office receives hundreds of reclass packets and is very familiar with the term "fast tracking" and understands that some soldiers may only have one or two NCOERs because of TIG. The memo doesn't have to be anything formal or in any kind of special format just a few lines stating that because of TIG you only have one NCOER submission vs four per the prerequisite requirement. The memo is not a requirement just a suggestion. The statement that insinuates by you submitting this memo "you should be good to go" is a little misleading to others that might be reading this blog. Following the suggestion listed above doesn't mean that your packet will automatically be accepted by a future Board it simply means that you can resubmit and your packet will be boarded the same as all other submissions.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
Unfortunately I wasn't selected for 51C this past board but I talked with the Proponent Office and they said they didn't understand why I was selected that they graded my packet outstanding. Then the woman said oh well you only submitted one NCOER. I replied to the woman, well I've only been an NCO for 19 months meaning I would only have one NCOER. Then she proceeded to ask me how it was possible I was a SSG then. It's called fast tracking! Anyways, she instructed me to write a memorandum stating that I've only been an NCO for so many months and only have one NCOER for the next board and I should be good to go. With that said, does anyone have any idea of what this memo should look like? Just a memorandum for record?
Geez guy could you please just give it a rest man. Just put your packet in for the next board and see what happens. Going back and forth on this forum does no good. Seems like its just pissing you off even more. Good Luck in August and hopefully you get selected


quote:
Originally posted by SSG 11Bx:
I guess you enjoy being called a liar and would take it. I on the other hand stick up for what I believe in and do not like being a called a liar. So if being disrespectful is what I have to do to clear my name, that is what I'll do. I never once lied nor changed the words from her. She is the one that is being disrespectful saying I stretched what she said.
quote:
Originally posted by OPsSSG:
It's too bad this guy insists on being so disrespectful to someone who has helped so many of us through the reclassification process. Regardless of what this guy says, there are lots of us that appreciate your help, TLH. Thank you.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH:
I do work there and I am the person that you spoke with. I don't have any other civilian counterparts that would be available to answer the questions that you have reference your packet...just me. I am one of the soldiers biggest advocate in this office and I take huge exception to the fact that you are indicating that we are not interested in taking care of soldiers. I will not respond to any additional posts that you put on this forum. If you wish to call me directly and identify yourself, I will be happy to speak with you.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
There is no miss quotes with the post. You were not on the phone so you have no right to say anything unless you are the female that works there that emailed me and I called back. I specifically asked about certain fields in my packet and she didn't explain to me how the grading process works but did tell me it looked good. Accept the ncoers! So how about you go call them or better yet we get on three way so you can look like an idiot.

A man's reputation runs on facts, not fabrications. I gain nothing from lying about this post, I only repeat what was said to me.

Thanks.

quote:
Originally posted by TLH
There are a few misquotes in the statements below that need to be corrected. The proponent office does not reveal the way any packet is graded by the Board and would never tell a Soldier that they don't understand why their packet was not selected. If a Soldier inquires about why their packet was not selected you may receive advice in reference to some trends in Board packet reviews that may help you (or not) when resubmitting your packet for a future Board. The proponent office receives hundreds of reclass packets and is very familiar with the term "fast tracking" and understands that some soldiers may only have one or two NCOERs because of TIG. The memo doesn't have to be anything formal or in any kind of special format just a few lines stating that because of TIG you only have one NCOER submission vs four per the prerequisite requirement. The memo is not a requirement just a suggestion. The statement that insinuates by you submitting this memo "you should be good to go" is a little misleading to others that might be reading this blog. Following the suggestion listed above doesn't mean that your packet will automatically be accepted by a future Board it simply means that you can resubmit and your packet will be boarded the same as all other submissions.
quote:
Originally posted by SSG WWR:
Unfortunately I wasn't selected for 51C this past board but I talked with the Proponent Office and they said they didn't understand why I was selected that they graded my packet outstanding. Then the woman said oh well you only submitted one NCOER. I replied to the woman, well I've only been an NCO for 19 months meaning I would only have one NCOER. Then she proceeded to ask me how it was possible I was a SSG then. It's called fast tracking! Anyways, she instructed me to write a memorandum stating that I've only been an NCO for so many months and only have one NCOER for the next board and I should be good to go. With that said, does anyone have any idea of what this memo should look like? Just a memorandum for record?
Ok everyone, I really need your help!!! I received a letter from HRC. After being accepted into the MOS HRC will not release me from my branch. I appreciate the info MBAgradto51C relating to eMilpo. When I contacted my Branch manager, they didn't know anything about it and didn't really agree with it. I'm hoping he can talk to the head guy up there. I've called everyone from Post Retention to Tammy Hughes and unfortunately their hands are tied. Does anyone know a way around this??? I really want to reclass into this MOS. My In/Out Calls are balanced and that's the reason as of right now that I can't reclass. PLEASE HELP!!! Thank you in advance!
Update: I think I made some headway... I talked to my assistant branch manager and it turns out that they didn't go to my specific branch manager when they made the decision on whether or not to release me. Since I am in a balanced MOS, I was automatically declined. My branch manager gets back on Monday, so I need to resubmit my paperwork through my career counselor and have my branch manager let them know that he is going to release me. Hopefully this will work. My advice to future candidates.... Have your 1SG contact your branch manager and let them know they need to watch for your paperwork. Thanks all.
I'm glad you made some progress and sorry there was nothing that we could do. I hope this works out for you.
quote:
Originally posted by SFC 12:
Update: I think I made some headway... I talked to my assistant branch manager and it turns out that they didn't go to my specific branch manager when they made the decision on whether or not to release me. Since I am in a balanced MOS, I was automatically declined. My branch manager gets back on Monday, so I need to resubmit my paperwork through my career counselor and have my branch manager let them know that he is going to release me. Hopefully this will work. My advice to future candidates.... Have your 1SG contact your branch manager and let them know they need to watch for your paperwork. Thanks all.
Good Morning Everyone!

I have been trying to go 51C for about 7 months now. I was stationed at Fort Bragg, NC until May of this year, and PCS'd to Fort Hood. Part way through the process back in February, I had a packet that was waiting on the Brigade Commander's signature before being sent off to HRC when I came up on orders for Hood. At that time, HRC said that they would not touch my packet because I came up on these orders and that it would be "some time" before I could submit a packet. Does anybody know if:

a) Do I have to wait to submit my packet?
b) If so, how long do I have to wait?

I am not getting any younger, so time is of the essence here. I called HRC on two occasions since arriving here and have not heard back from anyone yet. If anyone knows, I would be grateful for the intel.
What's going on 51C brothers and sisters. September will be a year for me in this wonderful MOS and I must say that it has been one heck of a ride. I have done everything from supply, services, construction, and options. It's a lot to take in especially dealing with all of the things we have to know as a Contract Specialist but I must say I have enjoyed it. I haven't been on here in a while so I just wanted to drop in to check on my fellow Specialists. I am scheduled to hit Afghan here in October so needless to say they didn't waste any time putting me on a deployment. I am very excited about it though and I am sure I will be ok, we really have some great NCOs in this MOS. The biggest advice I can give to those of you who are trying to come into this MOS is to make sure you are buckling down on your college. That has been my most important focus since I have entered into this MOS. I am currently 3 classes away from my degree and I am not going to be satisfied until ALL of the NCOs in this MOS has there's! I have just been rambling along on here I was in the middle of doing a combined synopsis/solicitation and the clauses started to make my head hurt so I had to come up for some air.

I must say that I am glad to see that this particualr forum is still alive and doing well. 51C thanks again for taking the initiative to put this post together.

Be Safe
I am confused... Have you been accepted by the 51C proponent yet? or are you still trying to get all the pieces of the packet together? You are doing this as a voluntary reclass and now that you have your feet on ground at Ft. Hood, there should be nothing holding you back from submitting this packet.


quote:
Originally posted by sgtcyre68:
Good Morning Everyone!

I have been trying to go 51C for about 7 months now. I was stationed at Fort Bragg, NC until May of this year, and PCS'd to Fort Hood. Part way through the process back in February, I had a packet that was waiting on the Brigade Commander's signature before being sent off to HRC when I came up on orders for Hood. At that time, HRC said that they would not touch my packet because I came up on these orders and that it would be "some time" before I could submit a packet. Does anybody know if:

a) Do I have to wait to submit my packet?
b) If so, how long do I have to wait?

I am not getting any younger, so time is of the essence here. I called HRC on two occasions since arriving here and have not heard back from anyone yet. If anyone knows, I would be grateful for the intel.
Also, I am doing this voluntarily (not in conjunction with a reenlistment). I was told that I cannot submit, as the unit is entitled me for a period that seems to range from 12-24 months, depending on who I ask. So, I am inclined to agree with you, if it weren't for this unsubstantiated information.
I understand the voluntary part... We all had to have a voluntary reclassification. You are right to an extent. You have to be with a unit for a certain amount of time. What I understand it is 12 months, but I could be wrong. My suggestion, submit the packet ASAP for the next board. you will have served your time in the unit. There is one of two options, they deny your packet, just submit it again or If the branch board does accept you all they will do is delay your school. But at least you will not run into the problem of the PCS, because the approval is already taken care of. You are just waiting for a school date. Never take no for an answer... and always take care of what you want first. You might find a delay, but you will still get the result.


quote:
Originally posted by sgtcyre68:
Also, I am doing this voluntarily (not in conjunction with a reenlistment). I was told that I cannot submit, as the unit is entitled me for a period that seems to range from 12-24 months, depending on who I ask. So, I am inclined to agree with you, if it weren't for this unsubstantiated information.
Oh and if you want this bad enough... read everything on the 51C website and submit the packet yourself. pay attention to the details and what type of memos you need. Find someone competent to type the memo's or do them yourself paying attention to AR 25-50. Then walk the memo's to the O5 yourself. Dont rely on someone else. Dont be timid about speaking to your O5 yourself because this is your career. Have someone proof your memo's have multiple eyes on it for any little mistake. but walk them in yourself. If the S1 says it has to be submitted through them for the signature by the commander.... be on them every other day... let them know your first name, bug the crap out of them...make them BE SICK OF YOU, so that they do there job in a timely manner. while you wait, get everything else in order... There is a checklist for this packet... be detailed. submit everything that is required... If you dont have something that is required but is waiverable... find the example memo and type of the waiver memo for the commander to sign. DONT FIND EXCUSES... FIND RESULTS... good luck!!!

There are alot ... and I mean alot of people that talk out of there ass about something they have little to no clue of the real answer. want to know the real answer? source the reg. dont want to look.. post retention might be a better option than that SSG trying to run a BDE retention point who just got out of school himself and probably doesn't even want to be the BDE retention point anyways. Never accept anyone's answer, the reply should be, ' where can I find that in the reg.' then be smart enough to follow up and actually read the reg. be amazed at how many people think they know what they are talking about but have no clue. Even as you read this, don't take my word for granted.


quote:
Originally posted by MBAgradto51C:
I understand the voluntary part... We all had to have a voluntary reclassification. You are right to an extent. You have to be with a unit for a certain amount of time. What I understand it is 12 months, but I could be wrong. My suggestion, submit the packet ASAP for the next board. you will have served your time in the unit. There is one of two options, they deny your packet, just submit it again or If the branch board does accept you all they will do is delay your school. But at least you will not run into the problem of the PCS, because the approval is already taken care of. You are just waiting for a school date. Never take no for an answer... and always take care of what you want first. You might find a delay, but you will still get the result.


quote:
Originally posted by sgtcyre68:
Also, I am doing this voluntarily (not in conjunction with a reenlistment). I was told that I cannot submit, as the unit is entitled me for a period that seems to range from 12-24 months, depending on who I ask. So, I am inclined to agree with you, if it weren't for this unsubstantiated information.
Good Luck, and stay focused. You run into snags let me know. I will try and help or guide anyway I can. I fought this process you are going through for 2 years before I submitted in Feb. once it was accepted it still was not smooth sailing. I actually had people telling me I was not going to this school, even after they entered it into ATRRS. They even flagged me in an attempt to delete the school. But I am still here, and I still have it. I was able to beat the people trying to deny this packet to the punch, by knowing the reg. knowing MILPER messages, and quite frankly now owing favors to new friends I am entirely in debt to. Making friends in positions that could give me advise how to do it the right way. Having the reg. fm or milper message in my hand. I went to IG four times and each time, that person had to reverse what they had done. I burned many bridges behind me, but you know what, my true friends helped me. If you need anything let us know. I am more than willing to help if I can.


quote:
Originally posted by sgtcyre68:
Thank you for all that advice. That is exactly what I needed to hear and normally it's the sort of advice I give to soldiers! LOL I'll start swinging the golf club Monday morning.
Hello to all my 51C brothers and sisters. I have not posted here in quite some while but I check in time to time and read different posts. I appreciate everyone who has given there knowledge freely here on this forum. There is a wealth of info listed here. I'm currently in school right now in Lackland and I finish up on the 30th of Aug so about 5wks to go. This has been a long journey I started this over a year ago in Germany. I'm finally here and it was well worth the wait. Good luck to all submitting packages and awaiting board results. And congrats to all who have been recently accepted. This is truly a great opportunity and even a greater responsibility to be in this field. Take care if any one is comeing to Lackland anytime soon and have questions feel free to ask. Take care.
Hey all, I've posted on here a few times with this issue. I was accepted in May of this year. I waited and waited for a school date, and then suddenly got a denial letter from HRC denying me to reclass. I then called my branch manager and (long story, short) he never heard about it, but was completely willing to let me go and reclass. Well when he okayed the reclass and I had my acceptance letter, then HRC stepped in and denied the reclass again! It really stinks because I was looking forward to this job and I didn't think anything could possibly go wrong once I was accepted. But now, not only will they not let me reclass, but I feel bad since I took someone else's slot. What the heck people? Any thoughts or suggestions??? Thank you.
I got picked up for the 51C reclass. My school date is in february 2012 at Lackland AFB. Can anyone give me an idea of what an average day is like at the school? What time does classes start? Is there pt before that? How the classes are? I heard that there aren't many Army guys in the classes at Lackland. Usually about 2 or 3 per class. Also, I'm still waiting on my follow-on assignment. I know there is nothing available right now but was hoping to find out if anyone knew what might be coming up. Any kind of advice and help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello km0973,

Here at lackland class will start at 0730 lunch is normally 1045-1215 with class ending at 1630. PT is conducted on your own no formations. You will wear Class Bs on every Mon. You are correct you will not see many Army personnel here at all. At the moment it is about 5 of us here in the whole school. I havent seen more than two per class. I think the army only has about two slots in each class. It is a lot of info but as long as you apply yourself in class and study there is no way you should pass every test they give you. If the AF airmen coming out of basic can do it that should give you a idea of how hard it is. As long as you study you will be fine. If you have any more questions just let me know and Good luck once you get here. Take care.
DSimp,
Thank you for the information. I can't wait to get there. I heard from someone else who got picked up for it, that I have to do 3 courses prior to going to school. I was under the impression that all I need is the ALC Common Core Phase I. Can you please confirm if I have any additional courses I need to take prior to coming to school?
Km0973,

You are correct as far as the ALC common core phase 1 but as far as 3 additional courses. I didnt take any additional classes prior coming here and neither did the other Soldiers that are here. What they may be referring to is the class or two that we have to take in addition to this course to get your level 1. Thats the only thing I can think of. Like I said you should be good to go.
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Originally posted by km0973:
DSimp,
Thank you for the information. I can't wait to get there. I heard from someone else who got picked up for it, that I have to do 3 courses prior to going to school. I was under the impression that all I need is the ALC Common Core Phase I. Can you please confirm if I have any additional courses I need to take prior to coming to school?


There are three courses that need to be completed prior to graduation at AABC, not sure about MRAC. Check out:

http://www.almc.army.mil/ALU_S...FOHSVCOURSESAABC.htm

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