68P??

This has nothing to do with your question, but I just thought I'd inform you. I was talking to a soldier today who was reclassing to 42A. He said he wanted to reclass to 68P, but they were downsizing and had no school slot for him. He was subsequently reclassed through needs of the Army. Don't know the whole story... maybe OC_ipap/Male_Nurse/Bears_Fan (Roll Eyes) could shed some light on THAT aspect.
http://appd.amedd.army.mil/Enl_pg/Enlisted%20WebPages/91P_Course_Summary.htm

http://radiology.amedd.army.mil/index.htm

Thinkin_bout_it.

Check those links out.

Im not sure if Ft Sam is even a phase 2 option or not for 68P. If it is, then that would be OVER 6 months at Ft Sam, hence it would be a FULL PCS...so it would be no differant than any other PCS in terms of entitlements and BAH and FAMILY, etc. However i dont know if FT Sam is even a phase 2 site.

If you are only going to be at Ft Sam for 22 weeks....i highly doubt you would be able to get on post housing. (maybe so, but i doubt it). You could bring the wife, and live off post. You could also come solo and stay in the barracks.

Hey, but when its about money and family...dont take information from even last week. (my information is 1.5 yrs old). Id contact the school house, and ask to be sure...straight from horse's mouth ya know.

If you DO live in the barracks at FT Sam...well its gonna suck, and yea...it WILL suck. But, its only 22 weeks.....so thats nothing in the big picture of things.

I by no means would plug or promote another Army Forum besides this one, but after typing in (68P army, phase 2) in google....THIS came up

http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8121999376/m/6060010601001/p/2

Its a thread from Military.com which is pretty lengthy and talks about that. Might be of help.
I cant think of a good name/Handle, Smittaayy.

Any suggestions?


thinkin_bout_it,

Have you ever worked in any Army Hospital? MEDDAC? What is your MOS now? What kinda unit are you at now?

MEDDAC is a whole differant UNIVERSE from the real Army. Some...some.....do actually LIKE that. Alot dont.
Its just there are alot of soldiers I reclassed with and see reclass that are and were in shell-shock. SOME actually like it MORE...some like it ALOT less. But its way way WAYY WAYY differant from the rest of the Army. As 68P...you WILL be in a MEDDAC..95% of time.

When not deployed:

TOA Unit -
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You work typical hrs
How your day goes by, is related to what training or tasks are going on
You get fri/sat as your weekend...sometimes 3/4 day weekends
You might go to the field...for a week or 2 at a time every so often, depending on your unit
You (well i did) feel like a soldier, nco, and a professional at your mos
High Unit cohesion - do PT together, work garrision together, go to the field together, deploy together
_________________________

MEDDAC - You will work 40hrs at least every week, maybe more but that might be 7pm--7am NITE shifts.
Your weekend might be MON and THURS. Then the next week it is TUE and SUN (hospitals are open on weekends)
As long as you do your job well...that it seems is all that matters. (being a good soldier or nco matters VERY little in comparision to your job...almost none)
Unit Cohesion is almost extinct - PT is on your own usually. If you deploy it will be b/c you are PROFIS...so you will go with a unit based from elsewhere for support. It wont be like your whole floor at the hospital deploys with you. Much much less unit cohesion. No time for that, b/c patients come first (and rightfully so)
The overall military bearing and soldiering in MEDDAC is 1/10th what it is in a TOA unit. If that's something you ENJOY....kiss it goodbye.

sooo on the FLIP side, if from a TOA unit you do NOT LIKE:

standing in formation

you wish the military was more laid back on its protocal, and less "sir, sergeant, etc" and less parade rest.

if you REALLY like doing your JOB, and DONT like that "army" stuff

if you DONT like organized PT (be carefull now...i mean never/gone)

We could have a great THREAD on this....go on and on and on. Im know i dont like meddac perse. However I just see alot that are overwhelemed by the differance.
quote:
MEDDAC - You will work 40hrs at least every week, maybe more but that might be 7pm--7am NITE shifts.
Your weekend might be MON and THURS. Then the next week it is TUE and SUN (hospitals are open on weekends)
As long as you do your job well...that it seems is all that matters. (being a good soldier or nco matters VERY little in comparision to your job...almost none)
Unit Cohesion is almost extinct - PT is on your own usually. If you deploy it will be b/c you are PROFIS...so you will go with a unit based from elsewhere for support. It wont be like your whole floor at the hospital deploys with you. Much much less unit cohesion. No time for that, b/c patients come first (and rightfully so)
The overall military bearing and soldiering in MEDDAC is 1/10th what it is in a TOA unit. If that's something you ENJOY....kiss it goodbye.


Well said...
I totally agree. I just reclassed out of a MEDDAC from 68Q to 21P (prime power).

Everything Joe Army said was right on the money, and its one thing to read it in a thread, but its quite another to live it everyday.

My biggest beef with AMEDD came after my deployment. Yes, I was PROFIS, which means I was a replacement/augmentee for a field unit. When I got back, I didnt get to readjust with all the guys I was deployed with. I had to go right back to work like nothing happened. On top of that, my NCO would give my additude when I had Behavior Health appointments that I needed to help me readjust. I wasnt a soldier, I was a civilian in uniform, and it seemed all they cared about was me being at work. And yes, your "weekend" is Monday and Wednesday, or Tuesday and Friday, and I usually got called in on my day off anyway.

I am certaintly not trying to defer you from your goals. The 68P course is one of the most valuable the Army offers because it can pay so well when/if you get out. I just want to make sure you realize its a different Army. No soldierization. Very little, if any, support from your chain of command. Hell, you never even see your chain of command.

I'm sure while you're at AIT, you might be able to get yourself into a field unit, like a CSH, if thats what you want.

Any by the way, if you do deploy, depending on where you are, your job might go out the window. I spent half of my tour in the ER holding pressure on wounds, pumping respirators, and cleaning up blood. Everyones a medic downrange.

Hope this helps and didn't deter. Just want you to be aware,
anyone who has relcassed to 68p have any help, info, and or experience for an active duty spc/e-4 that is deployed and almost a year from ets trying to reclass into this mos? I'm trying to get as much knowledge as I can before talking to retention
ccliff, you have a few options as active duty trying to reclass into 68P. like everyone stated above, medical is totally different than the real army and i found out the hard way, but you would get used to it if you choose to.

option 1 - talk to career counselor to reclass to 68P and stay active duty (very hard to get)

option 2 - during outprocess from active duty, talk to national guard counselor and reclass (chances of deploying and cross-leveling are high)

option 3 - during outprocess from active duty, talk to the army reserve counselor and reclass (chances are you would get stuck in a Combat Support Hospital)

i know all of this because, don't bash on me fellas, i was a 68P in the Army Reserves. believe me, i was in your shoes about 5 years ago. i tried to reclass and stay active duty, but you know how infantry battalions are: "you can re-enlist as infantry, tanker, or a cook".

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