68W school for Prior Service

I've been searching this forum for a minute and am still not finding the right answers to questions I have regarding 68W AIT.
I am prior service active army and recently went back to active reserves. I decided to re-class into 68W due to the fact that I want to be a Paramedic in the civilian world (I hate selling tires). Here are my questions:

Will I have to live in these 50+ personnel bays with the other privates or will I be put in seperate(and hopefully better) quarters? I'm a SPC if that helps.

Can I bring my POV to Ft. Sam?

Are they going to make me a class leader (I hope not)?

How long will processing take?

Is it true there aren't any more DS's there?

Will I graduate with my EMT-B? What other civilian certifications can I obtain after graduation?

Thanks for any help you guys can give me.
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1. No, you won't live in the bays (which are about 30 people.) You'll live in prior service barracks which are 2 to a room.
2. Yes you can have your POV.
3. Prior Service has their own platoon, so you won't neccesarily be a squad leader. But for classroom stuff, yeah, I won't lie. You'll be counted on for a lot and a lot of people will ask questions about the Army. You'll enjoy it though. They'll treat you like you're a SFC cause at that point in their army carreer they think SPC is really high ranking.
4. Inprocessing, hard to say. Different for everyone. I got there and had 3 days to kill before the next cycle started. Some people were there a few weeks.
5. It's true there aren't Drill Sergeants. They're called "cadre" now. But they act the same. They just don't wear the hats anymore. Stupid if you ask me.
6. You get your EMT-B, yes. Down the line you can get your intermediate and paramedic.
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Originally posted by Im_Vince_And_I_Sell_Tires:
Will I have to live in these 50+ personnel bays with the other privates or will I be put in seperate(and hopefully better) quarters? I'm a SPC if that helps.

Can I bring my POV to Ft. Sam?

Are they going to make me a class leader (I hope not)?

Wow, so you're looking for a better quality of life without the responsibilities? Roll Eyes

I don't get to say this very often, btu with that attitude, the Army is better off without you. Just keep selling tires!
Oh dont give me any of that crap. The reason I don't want it is not because I have a crappy attitude about being a class leader, but rather I just want to focus on class and not babysitting. You and I BOTH know that IET training is NOT the real army.

If I was put in that position, I'd accept and move on to the best of my ability. I just really don't want that position. Just like I wouldn't want the position of Retention NCO either.

The first time I went to AIT, I remember them putting prior service guys in charge of us. It wasn't the most ideal situation for them. And I really felt bad everytime a Prior Specialist had a rough time trying to get a cherry PFC in line because the cherry PFC thinks: "Well Why should I listen to him, he is a SPC, not an NCO!"

You also can be sympathetic to the fact that, becasue its IET, I could never deal with problem soldiers the best way I see fit. I'd have to go running to the PSG almost everyday.

I don't feel like putting up with that while I'm trying to concentrate on studies.

As far as the army being better off without me, I really hope you don;t say that when you're following short-timers to the chow hall talking about bonus' and school-ops.
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Originally posted by Im_Vince_And_I_Sell_Tires:
As far as the army being better off without me, I really hope you don;t say that when you're following short-timers to the chow hall talking about bonus' and school-ops.

I'll never beg anyone to "Stay Army" ... the Army can't afford to keep ALL Soldiers anyway. There must be some attrition.
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Originally posted by Stipe:
1. No, you won't live in the bays (which are about 30 people.) You'll live in prior service barracks which are 2 to a room.


1) See Foxtrot's Post
2) That 1 blgs is not large enough to house all the Prior Service from all 6 companies
[/QUOTE]2. Yes you can have your POV.[/QUOTE]

You will not be authorized to ride a motorcycle though. Just FYI, Leave it home.
[/QUOTE]3. Prior Service has their own platoon, so you won't neccesarily be a squad leader. But for classroom stuff, yeah, I won't lie. You'll be counted on for a lot and a lot of people will ask questions about the Army. You'll enjoy it though. They'll treat you like you're a SFC cause at that point in their army carreer they think SPC is really high ranking.[/QUOTE]

1)See Foxtrot's Post

2)Once IET's realize that you cant "smoke" them, they will blatantly disrespect you. especially if your platoon is around 60-75 ppl, so yes, if you are a platoon guide, you will have to rely on your cadre to back you up.


[/QUOTE]6. You get your EMT-B, yes. Down the line you can get your intermediate and paramedic.[/QUOTE]

where did you get this from? As a straight 68W, you get your EMT-B as part of the training, however unless you take one of the other "high speed" routs like SF, then you will remain an EMT-B.


Foxtrot, I thought the new barracks were for Air Force Confused
vet i honestly think you are the fucking idiot. you should have enough military bearing not to slander a soldier online. dont be such a bitch about it go find this sfc if you have an issue with him and yall square it away offline. dont be so fucking childish u goddamn prick.

spc.banks
I think you should both quit fighting over the internet, it's degrading to you both. Eithway, I think that prior service soldiers have pretty easy. Generally, you get more respect, however, I you are encouraged to mentor other soldiers. I understand, basic training is not like the real Army. Basic Training is a crap sandwich that i'd never bite into again. I don't think you'll have to be a squad leader, they didn't make the prior-service soldiers that re-classed become squad leaders when I was in BCT. It's possible though. Like others said, you should have your own barracks. This is all from an Infantry stand point. Every MOS is different. Some suck more than others.
so....i dont know if this will help bc it seems as though SFC hlebik has already said it all.
i was in A co, CLASS 06-09.
every company is different.
1)in A co, we had approx 100 soldiers to a bay, males and female bays, much like E co.
we did not have any prior service in our bays( i am a female).
we had so many prior service in our class that they designated a whole other open bay for some of the female prior enlisted.
2)yes, you can bring POV, but if you get caught transporting around IET soldiers, youre ass is grass and you will EASILY lose your POV priveleges.
3)i went through AIT last summer, and when i went through,the prior service was integrated with us IET soldiers.they were the squad leaders/"plt sergeants".i dont agree witht that bc it doesnt really give IET soldiers the opportunity to get the feel of a leadership position.but, it is what it is.we were also all in the same classes together. theres no need to separate the IET and prior service at the school house bc we are all there learning the same thing together. we loved being able to interact with the prior service, not because we "think youre like a SFC or something..." (which is quite an ignorant and arrogant thing to say), but because we appreciate the mentoring and STORIES!Wink
you say you dont want the responsibilities of having soldiers under you so that you can have more time for yourself, what im wondering is why you would not want an opportunity like that? as we all know todays army has completely fallen off course of what it used to be, in one of the ways of leadership. theres nothing more rewarding than being able to train,teach,or mentor soldiers. you may want time for yourself, but just remember that by leading by example and doing the right thing, or by taking a couple soldiers under your wing to mentor them, you could start to change the course of todays army for the better for the next generation....WHOOO!!! ANYWHO GETTING COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC HERE...
4)processing all depends. itll more than likely be more than 1 week. our class was in golf co for 5 weeks, and i got there a week and a half before foxtrot picked up. but reservists,and NG have priority when getting picked up for the next co bc your state is funding you to be there,not the govt. and just a forewarning, this place is NOT what you think it is. in G co while in processing, there is no discipline. haha, to say the least, we had prior service from line units, freshly back from deployment, who couldnt believe what they were seeing. its a zoo man, for real.
5)no DS, but DS or not, they do the same shit.
6)you will have your EMT-B and CPR cert.

anyways, its a shit ton of fun in 232 land Smiler
especially the FTX at camp bullis...talk about getting dirty,stinky,nasty,exhausted,smoked,and pressured all at once.
good choice there, medic is the best damn job in the army.
My best advice to you would be to show up about an hour before your report time. It takes about 5 minutes to fill out the forms at G. Co. From there you will POV convoy to what ever company you are assigned to. The first couple weeks are kind of frustrating. You have the mindset that you're there to learn and not babysit, but after a while, the kids begin to grow on you. Smoke sessions are common. For no reason.
The most frustrating thing for me was the fraternization between some of the cadre and the IET. It was completely blatant and unprofessional.
Just keep your wits about you and handle your business. A rock can pass the course. Stay out of trouble. I had no curfew, lived in BLDG 1382 which is the prior service barracks. 3 man rooms and pretty nice. The bldg was shared by a bunch of holdovers so stay away from them. They're always getting into trouble. The only trouble I got in was trying to bring liquor into the barracks. My 1SG laughed it off, so no punishment ensued.
Fun training, you'll learn your base knowledge for medic training, but you're not going to come out a Doc or anything. My recommendation would be to get in ACLS and Flight Medic when you get back to your unit. Good luck.

*POV - yes,dirt lot parking
*Class leader - probably, but you're an E-4 so they'll usually put in an E-5 first
*Living arrangements - questionable due to availability in 1382 and how many NCOs are in your class. They get priority
ok thank you for all the info that was on this even though there was some stuff that is unbecoming of a soilder on here it was still very helpful to me thank you to thoughs that put good info out and though some of you that where not living up to the soilders creed sham on you me im am doing my best to live the nco creed =)
Foxtrot 232 huh?

WE SET THE STANDARD! Good times, wish I wasnt such a pussy at the time and went stright to W1 after. Oh well fuck it, I get out in a month in a half.

Funny thing is my DS (yes there were DSs there at one time) from 68W AIT is now my 1SGT.

Guy walked me into the Army and is sending me on my way out.

I love it.
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Originally posted by FOXTROT 232 SFC HLEBIK:
can you delete this thread?
it has derogatory hateful post about me and i do not want this information public because it is harmful to my career, the comments were made by a soldier i kicked out of training


I really don't see anything bad that you've posted. Change you're account info if you're worried.

And for for the future, never put your real name out there on the internet man.

OPSEC lol.

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