Can someone explain this to me?

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but my mindset is if there is something that needs to be done I do it. I don't wait for someone to raise their hand or walk lazily to do it. I am in the Guards RSP program and last drill I was on Latrine duty and when i was done a SFC asked all the male soldiers to reorder all the cots I didn't want to stand by waiting doing nothing so I chipped in, and I got the stare of death from some other PFC's. I am female by the way and this is the second time it has happened and nobody will explain why. They just ignore me and ask someone else. I thought an army values was to look out for you buddy in arms. What's going on am I missing something? Thanks
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A true leadership trait, the desire to want to get the task at hand done. They stare at you with the "look of death" and sometimes fellow Soldiers will try to convince you to be lazy, but if you continue your performance - I see you leading these same Soldiers in a few years. Keep driving on, and don't let anyone else get in the way of your work ethic.
Looking out for your buddies-in-arms is making sure he has water, is warm, or getting up at 4am to pick his drunk ass up.

Volunteering to pay for cots that are bought and controlled by the Army is not. Her unit has a budget and in that budget is the money for the cots. Her volunteering to give up her own money, especially as a PFC, is dumb. Whats next? Is she going to buy her own bullets, maybe buy her own MRE's?
As she pointed out, the are in the process of being ordered, which is the correct way to do things. On another point, she has to live and work with her peers and doing crap like that is only going to make for a hostile environment. There is doing the right thing and then there is trying too hard. She is trying too hard.
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Looking out for your buddies-in-arms is making sure he has water, is warm, or getting up at 4am to pick his drunk ass up.

Volunteering to pay for cots that are bought and controlled by the Army is not. Her unit has a budget and in that budget is the money for the cots. Her volunteering to give up her own money, especially as a PFC, is dumb. Whats next? Is she going to buy her own bullets, maybe buy her own MRE's?
As she pointed out, the are in the process of being ordered, which is the correct way to do things. On another point, she has to live and work with her peers and doing crap like that is only going to make for a hostile environment. There is doing the right thing and then there is trying too hard. She is trying too hard.


Um, I think she meant like, to rearrange the cots in the correct positioning. Males were asked because they are "Oh so strong and brawny" and as a female she got looked at because it wasn't expected of her to do manly things like move a few cots around.

Lighthouse, it happens. Some male NCO's figure they will have the men do the tough stuff to spare our fragile bodies the pain of hard labor. Just keep up the good work, to hell with the looks you get. Like GoSignal said, you'll probably be leading those same soldiers one day and you can tell all soldiers, not just the males, to reorder the cots. Wink
Bah, I used to date a chick in the Marines that is like you.

Eager, over achieving private that has a sense of superiority merely because they do their job. Throwing in the "equal rights" factor just makes it all the more annoying.

YOU weren't told to move the bunks, they were. Just because you think you're being all "hooah" by not listening properly doesn't make you a better Soldier, all it does it bring negative attention to you.
Well lighthouse, all i got to say is keep the motivation you got going on. You are always going to have all the people that are going to hate on you becuase you are determined to be a good soldier. Don't let your standards down and you will become a good leader. Now, if you could only teach your work ethic to most of the females in my unit. keep up the good work
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Bah, I used to date a chick in the Marines that is like you.

Eager, over achieving private that has a sense of superiority merely because they do their job. Throwing in the "equal rights" factor just makes it all the more annoying.

YOU weren't told to move the bunks, they were. Just because you think you're being all "hooah" by not listening properly doesn't make you a better Soldier, all it does it bring negative attention to you.


Just because we feel like doing a job doesn't mean we feel we are superior. Males were asked to do it, yes, but that shouldn't have been that way. It should have soldier so and so go do it, not gender so and so. I don't care if you think I'm blowing equal rights smoke up your tail pipe or not, it's just not a good idea.

If a female can't do it, then let them decide. It's that simple. If nothing else the NCO should have covered his own ass and NOT said "males," he could have just as easily told 3 or 4 males to do it without singling out a gender role.

Now I'm not the type of person to get all huffy puffy because the boys won't let the girls play tackle football, but if the woman wants to re arrange some cots or basically do her job, then why should she just sit back and let some NCO blatantly disregard her abilities due to her gender?

As for your Marine chic, a lot of Marines think they are superior just because they are Marines....
Oh for God sakes people. She did the right thing. There's nothing wrong with helping out. It's not like the NCO told her to specifically stay put. The other PFCs were probably giving her the look of death because they didn't want the NCOIC to ask them to do it because they saw only one female helping.

I'm so glad I've been in units that don't look at the gender unless its about something obvious.. ie: 5 male soldiers, 2 female in the same room and a 180lb box needs to be lifted. I'm not a feminist but I do hate that any time a female soldier wants to help out with something that only males are doing, that means they are trying to prove they can do anything the men can do. It's called common sense and like she said "getting done what needs to be done."

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