I will be receiving my first NCOER this month. I have had a total of 5 Raters throughout my time in this Unit as a SGT. I know like 50% on how to do an NCOER. I have been initially counseled like any lower enlisted gets counseled. None sat down to talk about what exactly they expect from me now that I am a SGT. My first COR was never sent up but my rater got orders to Korea. I still have a copy of it. my CSM said to not worry about it b/c my Annual is what matters. is this true?

I have asked my last former Raters to provide a COR so that I can show my NCO. I have only been initially counseled but not as an NCO to know what to expect. Now my Rater has been my rater for 90 days and my NCOER has to be turned in. THe only problem is that I had 3 different job titles. I was the BN Training NCO for 6 months, MVMTS NCO (still helped in TRNG) for 2 months until I deployed and now being deployed I am the BN OPS NCO but have been for only 4 months of my rated period with my NCO. What should my NCOER be focused on? I overlooked what my Rater has done so far and he has my title as Training NCO. Should I also have information about being an OPS NCO?? I am confused on what to see in my NCOER.
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Buddy, you got hit with a nasty situation. Every NCOER that you get has a possibility of being looked at for future promotion. From what I gather in your post, this will be your first NCOER that actually gets posted in your file. In this case, the best thing you can do is give your current rater some good bullets on what you have done over the last year. You have been failed by your leadership on a very important topic. I am sorry. Hopefully you will be able to prevent such failure from happening in the future.
This is what I recommend. Print out a blank DA 2166-8 and write in some possible bullets that you have earned. If nothing else, brainstorm what you have done over the year (think number of personnel action processed, training schedules made, training accomplished that assisted the mission and METL, weapons qualifications of you and SOldiers, squad or company PT and weapons averages esp. increases, college hours you have attended, schools your soldiers have attended or excelled in, military schools you have attended and excelled in, boards won or attempted, all that). Also look on a few supporting web sites and books (ncoer.com and some professional books in the military clothing and sales) to ideas on what some good bullets are. There are a few books that will give you in-depth information about what you want to do, to know, and have for your NCOERs. While you may have been failed by some people in your rating scheme, there are many NCOs who would be more than happy to help you.
I know how hard it is to function as an NCO without any guidance. My own seniors feel that once a Soldier has stripes, they no longer need guidance or counseling. What I have done is to look for career information, leadership advice, and Army-useful information elesewhere. There is a great book called "The Three Meter Zone" that really imparts good information on professional development. Even just listening to older/ more experienced NCOs talk about their war-stories and how they handled situations can be very useful to your career. Good luck.
This is a big issue that seems to be happening Army wide. Units seem to stop caring about doing change of rater NCOERs because when the raters leave they don't care about doing change of raters for their NCOs and they figure that the next NCO will just cover down and pick up the months for the rated NCOs annual NCOER. In all regards this is wrong, especially considering you've had several jobs (probably in the same unit right?).
I also have never received any counselings as an NCO although of course my NCOER says I've been counseled. In these situations it is easy to go out and state that you deserve a 1:1 NCOER because there's no counselings supporting that you weren't "cream of the crop". Although I know you are worried about the timeline for the NCOER. Don't worry too much because despite the fact that they didn't care about doing COR NCOERs they are now required to do an annual since your one year mark is coming up. Your rated position should be the position of the slot your are filling as the BN OPS NCO. It should be titled according to the slot on the MTOE that your are filling which should be on your ERB (if they slotted your correctly). The other positions you have served in could be considered additional duty descriptions because you never received an NCOER for them. Stick with your annual cause your COR NCOERs would be late by now, but make sure it covers everything you have done and covers 12 months of rated time and not just the 4 months that your current rater has had you for. Other people dropped the ball and now your current rater has to make up for it.
Research AR 623-3 for more info.
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Originally posted by KineticMedic:
This is what I recommend. Print out a blank DA 2166-8 and write in some possible bullets that you have earned. If nothing else, brainstorm what you have done over the year (think number of personnel action processed, training schedules made, training accomplished that assisted the mission and METL, weapons qualifications of you and SOldiers, squad or company PT and weapons averages esp. increases, college hours you have attended, schools your soldiers have attended or excelled in, military schools you have attended and excelled in, boards won or attempted, all that).


You gave me a helpful idea. I am currently working on my NCOER and this is helping us get it done. I did brainstorm and go back to many things I have accomplished this year. I did not know it was that good for my first year as an NCO. THANX!
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Originally posted by Wolve:
Your rated position should be the position of the slot your are filling as the BN OPS NCO. It should be titled according to the slot on the MTOE that your are filling which should be on your ERB (if they slotted your correctly). The other positions you have served in could be considered additional duty descriptions because you never received an NCOER for them. Stick with your annual cause your COR NCOERs would be late by now, but make sure it covers everything you have done and covers 12 months of rated time and not just the 4 months that your current rater has had you for. Other people dropped the ball and now your current rater has to make up for it.
Research AR 623-3 for more info.


My Rater is sure making it up! We are hurting right now. Although my MTOE states I am a Movements NCO, although I did like 20% of my MOS when I was a Schools/Training NCO & now I am doing all OPS. We are working together to get this done. I have little knowledge on NCOER's but I am surely learning now with him. Thanx for your help. I am asking all kinds of questions to him & hope he doesnt get tired of them.

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