How many trucks are on a post?

I remember hearing this question and I've asked it a few times throughout my career.

The answer to "how many trucks are on a post?" is one. The truck is the gold ball on the top of the flag pole. There were also mixed stories about there being a razor and a bullet inside the truck. That was for in the event of the post being over run, the post commander would use the razor to destroy the flag and the bullet for his brain.

The razor and bullet story seems far fetched and unlikely but entertaining nonetheless.

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Originally posted by WiFiWarrior:
That answer cannot possibly true unless there are no HEMTT's on your post.

Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck (HEMTT)


thanks for ruining it. And even then it could not be true as here we have at least two flags that go up at 0600 and how would the Commanding General, get up there to get the razor and bullet...just like people that say that the planes on display here in Huachuca are the escape plan for the CG incase of the post being taken over...hahahaha
About the TRUK,
There is only one true Truk and it is located on top of the main post flag pole at Division headquarters.
it has three contents and they are:
one razor
to seperate the blue and stars from the stripes.

one match
To burn the two flag pieces together

on 45 cal. round
this one has 3 stories to it.
The first one is from the old army which says that the commander shoots him/her self.
(its the army's version of the navy's saying of going down with the ship)
the second saying is that the round is to be kept because you dont fully surrender the post until all weapons and rounds are given to the enemy so you keep it to symbolize that you didnt fully give over the post.
and the Third is that the round is used for defence.

I asked my DCSM what he thought was the real meaning for the round and he said i quote " I personally wound use the round to blow a cap in the enemies ass cause I'll be damned if I'll shoot myself so the round is used for self defense".

The TRUK also when it falls will break into 13 pieces representing the original 13 colonies.

I hope this helps you
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Originally posted by 35M3L00PF:
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Originally posted by Sarge07:
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And even then it could not be true as here we have at least two flags that go up at 0600


Fort Huachuca has TWO American Flags raised everyday?
Yep.


I know why he asked that question and it is odd that 2 flag would fly over one installation, but not that I doubt it. I am guessing that one is at Post HQ and the other at a Division HQ or something like that. Normally you wouldn't fly 2 representing the same thing, if that makes any since. Even though they all count (my disclaimer) the flag at Post HQ is the one that mainly counts. If not that means you get to pick which one to salute when it goes up and comes down, convenient.
There are 4 at Fort Hood...well, 6, if you count the one on North Ft. Hood and West Ft. Hood....

The best part is, where we form up for PT formation, we have the 13th SC(E) flag in front of us, but if we did an about face, we could salute the 1st CAV just as easily...
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Originally posted by Deadeye:
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Originally posted by 35M3L00PF:
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Originally posted by Sarge07:
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And even then it could not be true as here we have at least two flags that go up at 0600


Fort Huachuca has TWO American Flags raised everyday?
Yep.


I know why he asked that question and it is odd that 2 flag would fly over one installation, but not that I doubt it. I am guessing that one is at Post HQ and the other at a Division HQ or something like that. Normally you wouldn't fly 2 representing the same thing, if that makes any since. Even though they all count (my disclaimer) the flag at Post HQ is the one that mainly counts. If not that means you get to pick which one to salute when it goes up and comes down, convenient.
My understanding is although the reg says per post it's actually per command. We have one here for USAIC&FH and one for NETCOM. My buddy who was SF-S at Bragg says there are ton over there, SOC, 82d/18th, JFK training center, etc all have one.
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Originally posted by Spc. Clayton:
About the TRUK,
There is only one true Truk and it is located on top of the main post flag pole at Division headquarters.
it has three contents and they are:
one razor
to seperate the blue and stars from the stripes.

one match
To burn the two flag pieces together

on 45 cal. round
this one has 3 stories to it.
The first one is from the old army which says that the commander shoots him/her self.
(its the army's version of the navy's saying of going down with the ship)
the second saying is that the round is to be kept because you dont fully surrender the post until all weapons and rounds are given to the enemy so you keep it to symbolize that you didnt fully give over the post.
and the Third is that the round is used for defence.

I asked my DCSM what he thought was the real meaning for the round and he said i quote " I personally wound use the round to blow a cap in the enemies ass cause I'll be damned if I'll shoot myself so the round is used for self defense".

The TRUK also when it falls will break into 13 pieces representing the original 13 colonies.

I hope this helps you


And you got this from where? any true sources for this??? or just your theory or stuff you heard like the rest of us...also you said the only one is the Division HQ, we dont have a Division here so thats untrue.
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Originally posted by Spc. Clayton:
About the TRUK,
There is only one true Truk and it is located on top of the main post flag pole at Division headquarters.
it has three contents and they are:
one razor
to seperate the blue and stars from the stripes.

one match
To burn the two flag pieces together

on 45 cal. round
this one has 3 stories to it.
The first one is from the old army which says that the commander shoots him/her self.
(its the army's version of the navy's saying of going down with the ship)
the second saying is that the round is to be kept because you dont fully surrender the post until all weapons and rounds are given to the enemy so you keep it to symbolize that you didnt fully give over the post.
and the Third is that the round is used for defence.

I asked my DCSM what he thought was the real meaning for the round and he said i quote " I personally wound use the round to blow a cap in the enemies ass cause I'll be damned if I'll shoot myself so the round is used for self defense".

The TRUK also when it falls will break into 13 pieces representing the original 13 colonies.

I hope this helps you
This is one of the more ridiculous stories I have ever heard.
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Originally posted by 19K4X2B:
Whats so odd about a post having more that one flag? I have seen Fort Hood has at least 3, Fort Knox has at least 2, Fort Leonard Wood has at least 2, and Hohenfels Germany (CMTC) has 2.


What's so odd is that AR 840-10 Chapter 2, Section 2-2 paragraph B states the complete opposite unless authorized by the CG. So unless Fort Hood has 2 other installations within it, I'm pretty sure they are violating the Army Reg.
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Originally posted by Sarge07:
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Originally posted by 19K4X2B:
Whats so odd about a post having more that one flag? I have seen Fort Hood has at least 3, Fort Knox has at least 2, Fort Leonard Wood has at least 2, and Hohenfels Germany (CMTC) has 2.


What's so odd is that AR 840-10 Chapter 2, Section 2-2 paragraph B states the complete opposite unless authorized by the CG. So unless Fort Hood has 2 other installations within it, I'm pretty sure they are violating the Army Reg.


Unless it's been authorized by the CG... Wink
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Originally posted by Sarge07:
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Originally posted by 19K4X2B:
Whats so odd about a post having more that one flag? I have seen Fort Hood has at least 3, Fort Knox has at least 2, Fort Leonard Wood has at least 2, and Hohenfels Germany (CMTC) has 2.


What's so odd is that AR 840-10 Chapter 2, Section 2-2 paragraph B states the complete opposite unless authorized by the CG. So unless Fort Hood has 2 other installations within it, I'm pretty sure they are violating the Army Reg.


So why do you have a problem with it you said it yourself "UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE CG"...so it means if the post CG says good to go, then its good.
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Originally posted by TransAm95NCO:
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Originally posted by Sarge07:
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Originally posted by 19K4X2B:
Whats so odd about a post having more that one flag? I have seen Fort Hood has at least 3, Fort Knox has at least 2, Fort Leonard Wood has at least 2, and Hohenfels Germany (CMTC) has 2.


What's so odd is that AR 840-10 Chapter 2, Section 2-2 paragraph B states the complete opposite unless authorized by the CG. So unless Fort Hood has 2 other installations within it, I'm pretty sure they are violating the Army Reg.


So why do you have a problem with it you said it yourself "UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE CG"...so it means if the post CG says good to go, then its good.
And why would they ever say no to boot? Who cares?
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Originally posted by Spc. Clayton:
About the TRUK,
There is only one true Truk and it is located on top of the main post flag pole at Division headquarters.
it has three contents and they are:
one razor
to seperate the blue and stars from the stripes.

one match
To burn the two flag pieces together

on 45 cal. round
this one has 3 stories to it.
The first one is from the old army which says that the commander shoots him/her self.
(its the army's version of the navy's saying of going down with the ship)
the second saying is that the round is to be kept because you dont fully surrender the post until all weapons and rounds are given to the enemy so you keep it to symbolize that you didnt fully give over the post.
and the Third is that the round is used for defence.

I asked my DCSM what he thought was the real meaning for the round and he said i quote " I personally wound use the round to blow a cap in the enemies ass cause I'll be damned if I'll shoot myself so the round is used for self defense".

The TRUK also when it falls will break into 13 pieces representing the original 13 colonies.

I hope this helps you


You completely ignored my post and the fact that a HEMTT has "Truck" in its nomenclature.
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Originally posted by SGT Cessna:
WiFi, you are completely lost as this post is in reference to the flag and nothing to do with wheeled vehicles.


With all due respect, SGT, I have to disagree. The topic of this thread is "How many trucks are on a post?" The OP mistakenly claimed the answer is one because he thought the only truck (or truk) on a post is on the top of the flagpole, hence why you think the topic of this thread is flagpoles.
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What's so odd is that AR 840-10 Chapter 2, Section 2-2 paragraph B states the complete opposite unless authorized by the CG. So unless Fort Hood has 2 other installations within it, I'm pretty sure they are violating the Army Reg.


Actually there are 3 parts to Fort Hood. We are authorized 3 flags from what my command has said.
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Originally posted by WiFiWarrior:
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Originally posted by SGT Cessna:
WiFi, you are completely lost as this post is in reference to the flag and nothing to do with wheeled vehicles.


With all due respect, SGT, I have to disagree. The topic of this thread is "How many trucks are on a post?" The OP mistakenly claimed the answer is one because he thought the only truck (or truk) on a post is on the top of the flagpole, hence why you think the topic of this thread is flagpoles.


Wait a sec. I thought the topic of this thread was talking about flagpoles... Am I missing something here or are you trying to be sarcastic? (Serious question, no disrespect!)
Regardless of how many flags there are on an installation, there is still only one truk, located at the top of the flagpole directly in front of post headquarters. Building one is the monument found at the base of the installation flag pole.

Additionally, the truk represents the "shot heard 'round the world".
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Originally posted by SSG Prophet:
Regardless of how many flags there are on an installation, there is still only one truk, located at the top of the flagpole directly in front of post headquarters. Building one is the monument found at the base of the installation flag pole.

Additionally, the truk represents the "shot heard 'round the world".


I was just looking out the window after I finished reading your post and I see a "truk" right on top of the flag outside our building, and this is no the post HQ, then there is another flag for the post at a different location, soooo.....
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Unless authorized by the CG


This is a very interesting topic, because very few, if any, military members have visited every major installation. I'd like to some day, but time will tell.

The interesting thing is, I've read study guides that said there is only one truk on a military installation, but now that I'm digging, I can't find a regulation to back up that claim.

I'll do some more research tonight.
I personally think its all B.S. "IF" there was a round of ammunition that was sealed away oh so many years ago it would have to be checked for corrosion or replaced. Even airtight containers can contain enough moisture to damage a round after several years. Its all a stupid myth. How the hell would you get to it anyways?
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Originally posted by TransAm95NCO:
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Originally posted by WiFiWarrior:
That answer cannot possibly true unless there are no HEMTT's on your post.

Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck (HEMTT)


thanks for ruining it. And even then it could not be true as here we have at least two flags that go up at 0600 and how would the Commanding General, get up there to get the razor and bullet...just like people that say that the planes on display here in Huachuca are the escape plan for the CG incase of the post being taken over...hahahaha


I am here on FT Huachuca, and although there are two flags raised and lowered at the playing Reveille and To The Colors respectively, there is only one Post Flag and it is located at Brown Parade Field, the other flag you are referring to is in front of NETCOM Headquarters. The Truk is located at the top of the flag and Brown Parade Field.

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