I see a lot of spreads on the subject, but I’m wondering if there is an actual regulation that states that while MPs are underarms and/or conducting duties that they are not required to salute officers.
Here is my situation:
I’m working on Camp ***** (For political reasons I’ll leave it as *). Unfortunately were a National Guard Task Force and as MPs we fall under the same Task Force where suppose to “Govern” so it’s a political match-off with authority. We can't even write 1408's. We're only allowed to issue verbal/written warnings. So were not taken serious. All the soldiers know, and they test the limits daily.
So the Scenario today was a LTC left his vehicle running in a no parking zone outside the DFAC. There was no one in the vehicle and it was left unsecured and still running. There was a vehicle that was parked behind it with three other occupants who I questioned may have been watching it. When I approached the unsecured Vehicle I turned off the ignition and proceeded to search for the vehicle dispatch so I could properly secure the vehicle and turn it into the MP station. A MSG who was in the Vehicle behind the unoccupied vehicle came out and told me that it was the LTC’s vehicle. I addressed her politely that it didn't matter who the vehicle belonged too the vehicle is in a no parking zone, and it was against AST policy (ARMY policy as well) to leave a vehicle unsecured. She took the Keys from me and said she’d secure the vehicle. I permitted this with good judgment, knowing that it wasn’t worth starting a feud over something so small. My partner and I waited for the LTC but the MSG cut us off and briefed him before we could. I still felt it my obligation as the MP to approach the vehicle and inform the LTC. when I exited my patrol vehicle I greeted him politely. I did not render a salute due to the fact he was holding a to-go tray (breakfast I presume), but I offered him a friendly greeting and then I proceeded to explained to the LTC Camp ***** polices. I would have probably rendered a salute but he was already entering his vehicle preparing to leave. I wished him a good day and was returning to my vehicle when same MSG approached me, putting her hand on me saying, “You still have to salute, he is a LTC.” knowing when to pick and choose my battles, I offered her a ‘Roger MSG’. To be honest I think she was out of her lane and I think she was personally interfering with MP operations. I felt that she didn't have the 'right' to touch my person as well. Of course I back briefed all this to my Desk Sargent (who’ve never been Desk Sergeants outside the civilian law enforcement) who was unable to give me proper guidance outside of "You probably should have?". Now none of are MPs have worked Garrison except for 1 or 2, and the experience is limited. I've been a combat MP most of my career and honestly I've never been taught outside of MP school proper MP protocol, and I was never told to salute outside of gate guard with is a given 'duh'. I'm wondering if there are any guidelines, policies, and regulations as an MP.
I have read up on AR 600-25 and the only argue points I could come across was AR 600-25 Para 1-5 (h) 2 and 4.
(2) Engaged in routine work if the salute would interfere.
*Officer safety, or in this case conducting routine traffic stops, or regular MP routine work.
(4) Working as a member of a detail or engaged in sports or social functions where saluting would present a safety hazard.
**Once again officer safety. As MPs it's argumentative that where on a detail working for PMO. At least at camp ***** we've been instructed that we are detailed to PMO, when we are off duty we're still employable by are MP command for additional duties/tasks.
If anyone can help it would be appreciated.