NEW UNIFORMS!!!!!

meh, I hate collecting so much crap.
To me the IPFU is pretty dang satisfactory- any newer one better be "AIPFU"- Awesomely improved physical fitness uniform- to justify the bother..

As far as camo, I think we should just go multicam and get it over with. Issue some kind of desert pattern for specific environments upon deployment orders...
As far as the PT's go they are pulling from civillian industry standard. Much like the Navy did with their New balance PT's. So lighter softer better. Camo pattern multicam wasnt even in the running 4 finalist over 120,000 data points collected and the best uniform will be selected. Due to the ACU Pattern fiasco there is a good amount of clairvoyance in the selection process this time around. Should be announced on the Army's Bday.
The silliness with uniforms is really starting to irritate me. Go back to OD green; not like we're hiding in the woods these days anyway.

For the PT uniform, the grey cotton stuff I wore from 97-03 was tons better than the current IPFU. I honestly couldn't care what the replacement looks like so long as it is easy to wash, comes in normal human sizes, and doesn't restrict circulation to my head.

If it were up to me, the entirety of the PT uniform would be running shoes with optional socks, but I know some officer will demand reflective belts regardless (the uniform could be woven from tritium and mirrors and there would still be reflective belts).
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Originally posted by Hellz:
oh those look nice!

im glad they went back to the old style where the colors are rounded off instead of pixelated.

the color scheme looks familiar though, but i do like the new look.


Triwall's duffleblog is satire news lol. I remember that funny article.
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Originally posted by TheWiseChief:
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Originally posted by Hellz:
oh those look nice!

im glad they went back to the old style where the colors are rounded off instead of pixelated.

the color scheme looks familiar though, but i do like the new look.

Triwall's duffleblog is satire news lol. I remember that funny article.


lol you didnt think i was serious did you?

think they just did an article in Army times on the guy who created Duffleblog
I have the new PTs. I've had them for a couple weeks.

My first thoughts: I like the material, not a fan of the yellow. The shorts have spandex sewn into them. The shorts are supposed to be moisture wicking and anti-microbial. Nothing is reflective as a cost saving measure. They said it made no sense to drive up the price when everyone had to wear reflective belts.
The Kryptek looks good. They say photos are worth 1000 words. There isn't enough on that. It took me a lot longer to locate the dude in the Kryptek than that crap Digi-camo. I don't understand where the military assumes digital is the wave of the future when every damn picture or video I see of digital cams the Soldier/Marine/Sailor/Airman stands out like a sore thumb. Its about time the DoD puts its money to something worth while. I know I'm not the only one thinking this. The OCP uniform is the closest thing to functional camouflage I have seen since the BDU/DCUs
The colors for the new PT were laughable. None of which I like but I did like the gold braid and having US Army on the shorts but now we are going to look like this.

http://www.google.com/imgres?i...d=0CC0Q9QEwAA&dur=66 <--Singing in the Navy.

Kryptek is awful. I am not hunting caribou or in a predator movie. And if the Army selects that, I am quitting lol.

http://www.kryptek.com/ <---

I wore Multicam in Afghanistan and they match better with our boots than the current ACU but OCP is a one uniform solution in which the Army is trying to get away from. Where are the transitional OCP patterns? Because there are none.

Again, I am hoping for US4CES since that has proven in tests to beat MARPAT and OCP. Since the Corps did not want to play fair and wanted to be stingy with their pattern; it would be nice to have a uniform that is better than theirs and will look better than theirs as well. So let us see what happens.
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Originally posted by AutobahnSHO:
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Originally posted by SFC W:
I have the new PTs. I've had them for a couple weeks.


Very comfy?

(ps nice smile in the new pic.) Smiler


LOL I figured I should have a face after all these years!

I think they are comfortable. I love that the shirt is thin and not like the current ones. I'm not used to the spandex yet.

They may change, too. We wear them for 45 days and give feedback, so who knows. I am happy with them, don't like the color.
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Originally posted by Triwall:
As long as we still need to wear reflective belts...God forbid they take away the emblem of modern warfighting.


Soldiers were sweeping/mopping inside our BDE HQ with PT belts the other day.
(CSM said they wear them the WHOLE. TIME. they are on the detail, inside or outside...) Smiler
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Originally posted by JOSHFREE:
They actually cut out the reflective material in the uniforms due to the fact that all Services wear the PT Belt anyways. Saved a crap ton of money on production.


Yep, that is exactly what they said. They are black with yellow writing.

These with the bottom middle shorts and the black shirt with the yellow ARMY on the chest.
im going to get my shirt 1 or 2 sizes small so it hugs my beer belly and shows my belly button.. and the shorts im going to get as small as possible that females that wear bootyshorts will be jealous..

for PT, ill stand around licking my finger and sticking it in my bellybutton!!

be sweet if i can get a yellow shirt instead of the black one.. might as well stand out
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Originally posted by JOSHFREE:
http://soldiersystems.net/2013/05/30/us4ces-images/

us4ces


That is what I am hoping will be the winner but three weeks tentatively left. Honestly, the Army should of just went with the AOR patterns but the Navy got a hold on them. So, it seems that the idea now is to make every branch as similar as possible without actually using that service's uniform.
The Marine's are actually waiting to see which pattern wins and there is a possibility they will adopt the Army pattern. Why? Because the uniform the Army chooses will have been Scientifically proven to be the best uniform to conceal our Countries warriors. I wouldnt be surprised to see a congressional mandate for all services to adopt the camo considering the sequester and the ammount of money the Army put into this thing. You cant say its pride either The Marine digi's were adopted from the Canadians in the first place.
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Originally posted by JOSHFREE:
The Marine's are actually waiting to see which pattern wins and there is a possibility they will adopt the Army pattern. Why? Because the uniform the Army chooses will have been Scientifically proven to be the best uniform to conceal our Countries warriors. I wouldnt be surprised to see a congressional mandate for all services to adopt the camo considering the sequester and the ammount of money the Army put into this thing. You cant say its pride either The Marine digi's were adopted from the Canadians in the first place.


Which was adopted from a pattern that NATICK threw into the trash and then reused with Urban Track colors to make UCP.
Other then the fact that we have had it for the last 10 years and there have been drastic improvements in moisture wicking materials. Not to mention there is no need to continue to spend boatloads of money on reflective material that is unnecessary when we all wear a PT belt anyways. This is a positive change. The camo improvement effort contributes to the survivability of our fighting force. In the PT realm it increases Soldier comfort and endurance by having a lighter weight moisture wicking material. It’s a win win. ACU pattern sucks. Current PT's suck compared to what is available on the civilian market. This is a good thing for our military. We are moving forward and it’s about time.
They didn't kill the carbine competition per se, what I read on soldier systems was that no competitor managed to make it to the next round, however a part of the new NDAA it is stipulated that the Army conducts the carbine competition so...no idea where that goes from here.

As for the uniforms, also from soldier systems, none of the competitors were informed who won, which was essentially the writing on the wall that no announcement would be made. The competitors would need to be informed so that any can petition the result, file a motion to have something reevaluated etc. Now imagine that the army announced that a particular pattern won, then a loser petitioned and the decision was reversed and changed. That wouldn't turn out too well.

I'm not holding my breath waiting to hear who won.
Yea they stated that none met the criteria which I can understand. Its cheaper just to upgrade the M-4. As far as the uniforms went the decision not to publish was based on the new legislation put forth requiring all services to wear one pattern by 2018. Maybe will hear something in October. Still a bummer.
So the Army finally published something about the new PT's. There were a large number of concerns such as the breathability of the shirt and the color selection especially coming from Soldiers stationed in the South and South East black is definately not a good color for those locations. My big gripe is this. You redeveloped the PT's with input from the industry in regards to light weight wicking material yet you dont have a complete phase in for 5 years? what was the point there is bound to be revolutionary breakthroughs in fitness&sports wear. Id give it 12 months at a minimum, bump clothing allowance a hundred bucks and have it completely phased in by Fiscal 2015 not 2018 like their talking about. Or keep the current design and phase in the new materials and changes? Oh well Rant complete. Really hope we see a new announcement on the ACU replacement soon. Rant complete.

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