What are you allowed to buy in 11b

i was wondering what weapons your allowed to buy and other combat things i know your supplied with a rifle but can you buy more weapons like an m4 or an mp5 if you dont want to use you standard weapon and can you own multiple weapons also what body armor are you allowed to buy and are, they gonna changed the greedy haliburton governed law of not allowing you to buy great armor like dragonskin and with body armor can you wear whatever you buy or do you have to stick by some uniform rule also same thing for tactical vests that you can carry clips in, plus can you buy any type of grenade you want and as many as you want, shippin off for basic soon and i wanna know the truth
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I've never been in a unit that allowed you to buy and use your own weapon instead of your issued weapon.

When talking about body armor, I have not seen anyone buy and use other than what was issued since shortly after the start of the war (due to lack of supplies.) In the Army, everything is about uniformity. Also, the Armor used is to specific specs. Talk to your 1st line supervisor. There should be some sort of SOP.
The answer is no. You use what you are issued. You can't buy grenades anyway. At least legally you can't. When it comes to body armor and weapons, the army has tested many different kinds. The one the army chooses is most likely the best for you and the conditions you may fight in.

It is also army regulation. If you wear something not issued to you and you are wounded or die, then army will not be responsible. A lot of people in the chain of command will be held accountable.

Don't worry you will be issued all you need when you arrived at your station provided you pass basic training. Good luck.
Hello again,

Weapon- no, no and no again. You can sometimes do small additions like a light or vertical fore grip but no different systems.

Grenade’s- once again, not no but hell no. Where would you buy a grenade anyway?

Armor- When supply was low early in the war you possibly could had a little wiggle room here but not too long ago the army conducted tests of issue vs dragon skin and dragon skin lost by quite a bit (the debate is still going but that’s the answer)

Vests are where you can do some customizing (usually) but this will be determined by unit SOP and your ability to explain why your way works for you better.
I just want to know who or where youve obtained this info from??, Im sorry to admit but I was having a blast reading through this post..

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i was wondering what weapons your allowed to buy

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can you buy more weapons like an m4 or an mp5 if you dont want to use you standard weapon and can you own multiple weapons

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plus can you buy any type of grenade you want and as many as you want


ROFL!!!

but seriously, I'd suggest enlisting as 18x, sf candidate, make it through the training and you'll get to play with the cool toys, if not youll be somewhere in the 11 series (infantry) and they also have some neat stuff Wink

Good Luck!

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err, seems like you're already set to go to basic disregard that last part.
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Im sorry to admit but I was having a blast reading through this post..


Same here. Do you know how funny it would look if deployed Soldiers could pick and choose their own uniform and weapons? Every PVT would be walking around like RAMBO.

I would like an MP5 though...with a samurai sword...or maybe a flame thrower...
2 more questions, can you slightly modify your weapons say add a reflex scope or sight or change the top of the barrel as long as your still within the same mm clip, and can you buy sidearm such as pistols and choose them?

jmavphil i was thinking along the lines of one a them portable miniguns. and kyle i think im goin ranger but they got some fun stuff too, not as good as sf though
I had a soldier buy an $800 scope with a rail kit. We let him actually take it to the range. he could not hit paper form 25m. It was SOOOO funny.
I am an Infantry NCO, take some advice, don't go 18x at first. Go light Infantry (by getting choice of station in your contract) or maybe even Ranger, but make E4 or E5 first. Don't listen to tankers who think all you have to know is how to walk and do push ups. There is a lot of training you will need before attempting the Q course.

Good Luck
To answer you two extra questions, NO GUNS! You use whats not issued and your in deep shit. As for modifications I would say your may be able to do additions, but no mods. What I mean is you could (depending on your unit) buy a better sight, or light but changing a major component (shorter barrel) won't happen.

Don't worry about the gear. Most every light/ regualr infantry allready has the goodies on thier weapons. They have M-4's with red dot sights and other toys at noe cost to you.

Worry more about the tactics then how fancy your rifle is.

11b's out there please correct me if I"m wrong but you do not carry pistols, correct? I know MP's carry both in combat but have yet to fully realy understand why.
I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to spend thousands of dollars on equipment that has been repeatedly rejected by the Army for not meeting minimum standards, and weighs significantly more than what is standard issue.

Dragon skin is fine armor so long as you don't expose it to extreme temperature (like say Iraq or Alaska) or diesel fuel (like from a HMMWV or Bradley fighting vehicle) which can cause the glue to fail.

Heckler and Koch make some fine firearms (hence the price tag) but unfortunately none of them meet the requirements of the Army's missions. The 416 was a nice concept and has caught on with the civilian market, but was hardly improvement enough in reliability to replace our entire inventory of rifles (especially when factor in the greater expense of the new rifle, the cost of retraining your force to maintain it). To top it off, the 416 with 10" barrel weights a pound and a half more than the M-4 with a 14.5". That's weight gain and range and velocity loss. Considering that of late we've been issuing of M-14s and accessorized M-16s (bipods and ACOGs, oh my) because current operations require engagement at longer ranges, the M-16A4 is my weapon of choice.
I've seen reports of highly modified MP5s that might reach 200 meters, but as they say, rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols (guess what the P stands for).

The pistol used by the infantry is the M-9. You'll probably never use it (in an infantry company of 100+, we had 2 pistols that went to the CO and 1SG)

Grenades? No.
I think in the 10 years I've been in the Army (6 infantry) I've held maybe 5 grenades. They were all standard issue frags and highly accountable.

For accessories I managed to get away with a 4X scope, but units will have varying policies. Also those that constantly qualify at the expert level, wear an EIB, and sport sergeant stripes can get away with some things that marksman scoring privates can't. All that stuff makes little difference anyway. Learn to use your rifle first. Spend about 50,000 rounds before deciding on an upgrade.

Advise for basic: 99% of what you have heard or preconceived about the Army is wrong. Go there with the attitude that you know nothing.
Rangers lead

I am an Infantry NCO and I have used the MARS sight, M68 Aimpoint, ACOG, 145, and the Eotech.(all in combat) DON'T BE SO FAST TO KNOCK THE IRON SIGHT. Just because some non combat arms general was convinced to buy a million sights does not nmean they work. Yes they do look cool but you will be taught how to shoot closer quarters without sights.

I guess my point is not to get worried about gear. And don;t form opinions about things before you have tried it. All privates (my self included) thinks they know a better way to do everything. Listen to your NCO's. Find GOOD soldiers you respect and do as they do!

You will be fine. Just keep that motivation up when things are sucking!

Good luck
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Originally posted by rangers lead:
i was wondering what weapons your allowed to buy and other combat things i know your supplied with a rifle but can you buy more weapons like an m4 or an mp5 if you dont want to use you standard weapon and can you own multiple weapons also what body armor are you allowed to buy and are, they gonna changed the greedy haliburton governed law of not allowing you to buy great armor like dragonskin and with body armor can you wear whatever you buy or do you have to stick by some uniform rule also same thing for tactical vests that you can carry clips in, plus can you buy any type of grenade you want and as many as you want, shippin off for basic soon and i wanna know the truth


Someone is in for a rude awakening.
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as long as i got a sight other than just the iron sights im happy. god bless 11b


Previously posted
My best scores to date
right handed iron sights:39
left hand iron sights: 24
right hand reflex sight: 38
left hand reflex sight: 34
right hand 4X scope: 39

Reflex sights are great for close quarters, fast target acquisition, and off hand shooting. Unfortunately, they are not as reliable nor quite as accurate as iron sights. Scopes are mainly useful for longer range (200+ meters) accuracy and target acquisition/identification. They also have a trade off of being harder to aim at close up targets. Over all, every infantryman needs to be proficient in the use of iron sights because they are the most versatile and durable of the options we have.

Other sights augment the iron sights for specific situations, but should never be considered as a replacement.
Only in certain situations are we allowed, or even issued, an M9 and M4. Drivers and gunners are usually issued both since they typically stay inside the vehicle, but I've seen that overlooked too. 240 gunners have both, but once you're a rifleman/automatic you only get the M4 or SAW. As far as modding your weapon goes, it's up to Company SOP unless higher says otherwise. Some don't mind if you add things like grips, lights, or better sights, sometimes different pistol grips, but not usually since many people screw up and change out incorrectly. I've even seen quite a few free floating barrels, but they were issued and changed professionally, not personally. In most cases, you can buy your own gear like vests, mags, etc, but again it's all about SOP.
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